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USDA Christmas Tree Tax Takes Effect
breitbart ^ | Nov. 15, 2014 | Rich Tucker

Posted on 11/15/2014 5:42:24 PM PST by PROCON

This year, your real Christmas tree will be more expensive than it needs to be. That’s because the Department of Agriculture is imposing a fee on each fresh-cut tree sold.

A few months ago, the federal government created a national marketing program to advertise the virtues of real Christmas trees. It’s funded by a 15-cent surcharge that will be added to the cost of each tree sold. It’s not a tax, Washington insists -- merely a fee that you have to pay.

“The Christmas tree industry requested this initiative to fund Christmas tree research and marketing, the program will be funded solely by the industry, and the government is not imposing any tax on Christmas trees,” an Agriculture Department spokesman explains.

It’s a distinction without a difference. If a fee is imposed on a product by a government, it’s a tax on the consumer.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristianbigotry; christmastree; taxandspend; taxes
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To: PROCON; All
Women and children hardest hit...


61 posted on 11/15/2014 7:15:37 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: azishot

Probably wondering why they all turn brown and drop needles.

The conclusion will be that we should decorate them in the woods and not cut them down.


62 posted on 11/15/2014 7:16:25 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: Dacula; All

But Republicans are pro business, and isn’t this what business wanted?


63 posted on 11/15/2014 7:18:26 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: PROCON

Is there one small aspect of our lives remaining that this feral government has not intruded?


64 posted on 11/15/2014 7:23:49 PM PST by Iron Munro (DHS has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: PROCON

I can’t get terribly excited over a 15 cent marketing fee on Christmas trees that can cost $50 or more.


65 posted on 11/15/2014 7:24:42 PM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: MeshugeMikey
Id bet burning the tree in a fireplace..might be illegal in many parts of this now wacky nation

I toss mine into the backyard after Christmas. It's usually covered in snow within a few days. Once it reappears in the spring (and it's warm enough to venture outside) I cut all the branches off. Then I use a branch or two every time I light the fire pit. They work as well as lighter fluid/

66 posted on 11/15/2014 7:24:58 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Vermont Lt
The conclusion will be that we should decorate them in the woods and not cut them down.

LOL, a new gubmint policy coming soon...

67 posted on 11/15/2014 7:25:28 PM PST by PROCON (I love sleeping, it's like being dead without the commitment.)
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To: Retired Chemist

The overhead of administering this is more, and this is just intrusive by principle.

We need a Christmas Trea Party.


68 posted on 11/15/2014 7:26:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Retired Chemist
I can’t get terribly excited over a 15 cent marketing fee on Christmas trees that can cost $50 or more.

Oh, sure, easy for you to say, you rich Republican 2 per center!

What about the poor children...

69 posted on 11/15/2014 7:29:57 PM PST by PROCON (I love sleeping, it's like being dead without the commitment.)
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To: PROCON
What about the poor children...

Don't worry. There's a gubmint pogrom to buy them underprivileged chillens a tree...

70 posted on 11/15/2014 8:40:01 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: bigtoona

Slip onto government land and cut your own!


71 posted on 11/15/2014 8:40:25 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (ISLAM, the religion of the criminally insane.)
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To: PROCON
Has Alcoa argued for a 15¢ tax fee on Festivus poles?
72 posted on 11/15/2014 9:13:20 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: PROCON; All
Thank you for referencing that article PROCON. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

This the second thread that I’ve noticed since the elections with a refence to a tax seemingly proposed by non-elected federal bureaucrats. Here’s the first thread that I saw.

FR: FCC Plans Stealth Internet Tax Increase

The disturbing thing about these threads is the following. The Founding States had made the Constitution’s Clause 1 of Section 7 of Article I to clarify that the House of Representatives uniquely has the power to initiate bills which appropriate revenues. So since RINOs have had majority control of the House for the last four years, did thieving incumbent RINOs not only make sure that these proposed taxes weren’t announced until after the recent elections, but are these RINOs also hiding behind non-elected federal bureaucrats to give voters the impression that voters cannot do anything about such taxes?

Also, regarding the proposed tax on Christmas trees, regardless what FDR’s activist justices wanted everybody to think about the scope of Congress’s Commerce Clause powers when it wrongly decided Wickard v. Filburn in Congress’s favor in 1942, note that Constitution-respecting justices had previously clarified that the states have never delegated to Congress, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate commerce.

”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So citizens shouldn’t be seeing a federally “inspired” Christmas tree tax at their intrastate tree farms imo.

73 posted on 11/15/2014 9:24:47 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: ConorMacNessa

Fees, fines, taxes, they are all the same:

A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.


74 posted on 11/15/2014 9:41:56 PM PST by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: SunkenCiv
Fifteen cents, people, settle the **** down.

OK genius. You ever hear the expression, "Mighty trees from tiny acorns grow?"

Hasn't been a tax or fee in U.S. history that hasn't had everlasting life under the same law of nature.

75 posted on 11/15/2014 10:51:07 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: sheana

Well considering most of the winter is ‘no burn days’ here......yeah.
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sheana... It really would be nice to see you and other FReepers stop saying “here”, instead of just saying where “here” is or at least including the location on the about page.

...Where does the law prevent people from generating heat in the cold weather by using their fireplaces or wood stoves?


76 posted on 11/15/2014 11:03:46 PM PST by octex
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To: kaehurowing
If people knew what a gallon of gas costs without all the taxes and fees added into it, they would revolt. Ditto for your monthly phone bill and electricity bill.

So why don't we find out and see to it that the "Stupid American Voter" actually has the opportunity to become a little less stupid, and perhaps proactively actually militant?

77 posted on 11/15/2014 11:23:58 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: MeshugeMikey
as I understand it the no burn days were orignal intended for Industry ...rather then homes.. But as politcal gangsters often will they insisted on ENLARGING the scope ot the “bans”

It's still only industry, but no one cares to study the law and call them on their abuse of it.

Exactly like the Roberts decision.

78 posted on 11/15/2014 11:52:25 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: fwdude

I wonder if this is also a means to kill small Christmas tree growers. Only the huge corporate farms are likely to collect and pay the tax. Will small growers be prosecuted for tax evasion if they don’t comply? Seems possible. I’m not sure what’s going on here, but forgive me if I’m highly skeptical of ANY business or industry that asks to pay more taxes.


79 posted on 11/16/2014 12:27:16 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: PROCON

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to [tax our people], harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

[mine]

Taxes and death. Twin towers of totalitarians.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” - Thomas Jefferson


80 posted on 11/16/2014 2:10:41 AM PST by PGalt
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