Posted on 11/15/2014 9:09:13 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt
In two videos, Jon Gruber D-MIT told friendly audiences that he had to lie in order to get ObamaCare passed and he took advantage of the stupidity of the American Voter to accomplish his goal.
Let's back up one step. Obama was elected to the Presidency in 2008. In the same election, in the House, the results were 257 to 178 or 59% of the seats were won by Democrats. In the Senate, the Democrats won 59 seats and with Arlen Specter's party switch, the result was 60 to 40, a filibuster proof super majority. This was enough to pass anything they wanted.
Then Ted Kennedy died on August 25, 2009. The special election to replace him was held on January 19th, 2010, when Scott Brown famously was elected as the 41st vote against ObamaCare. The Senate passed ObamaCare 12/23/2009, but Brown's election deprived the Democrats of a guarantee to break a filibuster. This is the political context for Gruber's and all the lies in support of ObamaCare.
In spite of Obama's campaign of lies backed by the media and all the good forces in society, but without opposition of the Pharmaceutical Industry (bought off this time to prevent any 'Harold and Louise' ads) or the Insurance Industry (bought off with the promise of 30 million new customers through the mandate to buy insurance) or effective opposition by the hapless GOP (who's leader's really didn't mind all that much that ObamaCare was passed, as it increased their own power), ObamaCare never managed to gain a majority of Americans to support it.
How can this be? Americans were told, "If you like your plan, you can keep it. If you like your Doctor, you can keep your doctor." Americans were told "You will save $2500 a year." Americans were told that everyone will be covered and that health and financial security would be secure for the first time in our history. These were all lies, now irrefutably exposed by the videos of our pal, Prof. Jon Gruber of MIT. At the time, criticism of ObamaCare was attacked and simply political partisanship extending to personal hatred of Obama based on his race. Remember Speaker Pelosi walking through the crowd of Tea Party protestors with her giant gavel and the false charge of racism that followed with the lies that Black Democrat politicians were spit on and racials slurs were used. These charges were also lies.
If Americans had believed these promises, who could possibly be against a plan that would not change your current insurance or doctor network and with the cherry on top, you would save $2500. There should be 99% support. ObamaCare never gained majority public support. More than half of the American voters apparently weren't so stupid as to believe the Obama/Gruber/Democrat lies.
Now we've reached the point where we can ask, who was Gruber lying to? Gruber said ObamaCare was written in a tortuous way, so that the CBO would not count provisions of ObamaCare as taxes and that they shoved off costs to the States, so that the Federal cost could be kept under a trillion dollars. So, did the CBO believe the lie? I doubt it. The went along with the lie for organizational reasons, Congress was run by the Democrats. They went along because they were required by law to score the bill according the the way it was given them, not as it would actually do in reality. Was the CBO so stupid, that it didn't know it was being lied to? I doubt it.
How about the States? Now, the Gruber and others wrote ObamaCare so that only people, who bought ObamaCare through State exchanges would be able to receive subsidies. The ObamaCaristas thought that ObamaCare would be so popular, that the public, stupid Americans, would then demand that the States establish their own exchanges or the politicians in those States would be punished by the "stupid voters".
Now, did the States believe the Gruber/Obama lies? Only 14 States set up their own Healthcare Exchanges, while 34 States did not. So, State politicians weren't coerced into setting up Exchanges with the lure of free money or the pressure of their constituents. Gruber's lie is another big fail.
In current news, the success of ObamaCare was so important, the minor detail that subsidies only applied to purchasers under the State Exchanges has been ignored and purchasers in all States have received subsidies. These videos of Gruber are going to be part of the case against the Federal Government providing the subsidies. This case has been accepted by the Supreme Court. This Mastermind, Gruber, just couldn't keep his yap shut.
Chief Justice John Roberts famously changed his vote deciding that ObamaCare was unconstitutional, and by re-writing the bill himself, viola, determined what Gruber said was not a tax, was really a tax, thus ObamaCare was a constitutionally authorized tax. Did John Roberts believe Gruber/Obama's lies? Well, no. On one day before the Court, the Obama Administration argued that ObamaCare was not a tax. On the second day, they argued that it was a tax. Gruber knew it was a tax, lied about it to the public, but Roberts didn't fall for the lie. Well, at best, didn't fall for one lie and believed the other lie.
We've seen many videos of Democrat Politicians repeating the Obama lie "if you like your plan...", did they believe the lie? I doubt it.
The mainstream media (what's left of it) picked up and repeated Gruber/Obama lies about ObamaCare. Rush yesterday picked up on Ron Fournier, the AP's Washington DC bureau chief, surprise that Obama lied, that Gruber lied, that the Democrat Party lied, that the Media lied, that indeed ObamaCare was built on a fountain of lies.
So, we are reaching the end of the trail. Yes, Gruber and Obama lied, but the only people who actually believed them and were taken in were the mainstream media and the low information voter types, who only heard about ObamaCare and understood that it meant free healthcare for them, like the free ObamaPhones they had.
The "stupid American voter" took every chance they could to vote against ObamaCare starting in January 2010 with Scott Brown in Massachusetts. Massachusetts!! If they can't fool 'em there with big government, they can't fool 'em anywhere. The blowout mid-term elections in 2010 and 2014 were all about ObamaCare. What about the re-election of Obama in 2012? Romney didn't campaign against ObamaCare and barely had a cross word to say about him. Romney dissed the Tea Party, Palin and conservatives, which gave the GOP the Majority in the House in 2010. If Romney had only received the same number of votes that McCain did, he'd've won. He gave millions of voters no reason to come out and vote for him. You can't expect voters to drag candidates across the finish line by themselves.
RomneyCare was also constructed by Gruber, who also crowed about "ripping off the Federal Government" to the tune of $400 million a year to pay for it. And there's already been speculation that if Romney decides to run in 2016, that this Gruber fiasco could doom him too.
So, what was the purpose of Gruber's lies? I'd say they were basically just cover for the Democrat Members of Congress, talking points for them to repeat. Nancy Pelosi was out there, 'Did you read the analysis written by Jon Gruber?' was a answer to a reporter questioning ObamaCare's financial promises. They could repeat the "if you like" mantra without believing it.
National Healthcare run by the Federal Government has been the Progressive Dream for over a hundred years. The goal for Obama and the Democrat Party was to pass something anything to get the vast expansion of the Federal Government it on the books and the power in their hands. Then they'd fix it as they went along. For that was the purpose, to have the People come crawling to the politician to help them. Obama has unilaterally changed his own law 30+ times to fix it.
He'd have preferred to have a Democrat Congress to do this work for him, but the "stupid American voters" put the kibosh on this, but throwing out the ObamaBots of the Democrat House in 2010 and the Democrat Senate in 2014. That the GOP House has done nothing to stop him is beside the point.
What Gruber/Obama/the Democrat Party have done is subversion, high crimes and misdemeanors of the highest order. They're lying, scamming and plotting to overturn the political order to place themselves permanently on top as ruling class, an oligarchy, to replace the constitution.
As Mark Levin, this is the type of actions that spawn revolts. And this is the urgency and desperation of our situation that the blind moles and post turtles of the elected GOP just simply do not understand. They think that we're in just another cycle of "politics as usual", instead we have lawless revolutionary President conducting a self-coup against the lawful order.
Could somebody please donate some links to the videos? I need to show them around to folks here who believe they aren’t real. I can’t find them searching except for mini excerpts on news shows.
Let us not forget that Sarah Palin, the “stupid” Woman the Left loves to hate, told everyone the Truth about Obamacare years ago.
A voice in the wilderness.
Well genius, NOT ONE republican voted for Obamacare.
I'm not sure what more you were looking for. Please expand on it, if I've missed the point.
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Well, I’ll say this FOR the Republicans... Whether Full -RINO like McCain or TEA affiliated like Jeff Sessions...
Not ONE of them voted for it. None.
That’s a fact that will never change. Argue if you will that they were secretly for it, but none voted for it.
I edited out my remark making exactly that point. I thought is would jumble up even more an already jumbled up piece.
He was lying to provide cover for Obama and Democrat congressmen. And they were paying him to do it. Even Gruber is smart enough not to admit that.
Thus the subterfuge about “stupid voters”. The people were not in a position to voting Obamacare. There was no referendum on Obamacare. They knew the Republican congressmen were not voting for it.
Who are the “stupid voters”, then? Why, it was the Democrat congressmen who were on the fence and need to vote to pass the bill. They needed a nice story to explain why they voted for the monstrosity that is Obamacare.
6 Grubergate videos so far make Nixon’s little missing tape minutes look like a sniffle in preschool.
First You Tube link to Gruber bragging about lying to stupid American Voters about ObozoCare.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI
Second Grubergate Video link to Gruber bragging about how stupid American voters are/were to pass ObozoCare.
<http://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/12/gruber-video-2-no-really-american-voters-are-stupid/
Third Video from Herr Gruber on stupid Americans wanting Obozocare.
Fourth Grubergate video from Herr Gruber re stupid Americans.
http://www.c-span.org/video/?292478-1/health-care-reform
Remember zero Republicans in Congress voted for ObozoCare. Every stupid rat in Congress voted for it without reading the bill or caring what was in it.
Fifth Grubergate video from Herr Gruber re stupid Americans, Fifth Video Emerges, Showing Gruber Mocking Man Worried About Obamacare
Sixth Grubergate video from Herr Gruber re stupid Americans.
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/14/the-hits-keep-coming-gruber-video-6/
There is also a there is a PBS video of Gruber saying he worked with Obama himself in the Oval office:
I do. They conducted no opposition to ObamaCare worth the name. It was left up to the millions of citizens out there to do the work the elected GOP wouldn’t do.
A lot of Americans and many freepers have amnesia, when it comes to this documented ObamaCare voter history in Congress!
The documented history on the ObamaCare votes in Congress. Every single democrat senator and every single democrat congressit voted to make this Obamacare the law without reading nor understanding what they voted for.
Every single Republican in Congress voted against this Obamacare.
So, the stupid rats in congress own ObamaCare as per their own expert, Herr Gruber‘s You Tube comments.
Thanks from me too.
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I couldn't agree more. It took a while for all this to finally come to light.
We might also add the obvious parallels with global warming and the specious or at least dubious science advanced to justify curtailing basic property rights of Americans.
In case after case basic constitutional procedures have been aborted and executive tyranny substituted. Increasingly, Obama does not even seek a fig leaf to justify his power grabs.
The whole administration should be seen as Nixon was painted in the Watergate affair, a cabal in charge of the nation governing against the nation but in Obama's case doing so to subvert the nation. Nixon at least was a patriot but Obama despises everything about the American experiment.
Gruber was needed for the Democrat Members of Congress; House and Senate; and for the Media. ObamaCare was crafted to minimize opposition. They learned from the HillaryCare debacle and bought off the short-sighted Pharmaceutical and Insurance Industries. Both are doomed to destruction under any national healthcare scheme.
The fact remains that taxpayer dollars were disreputably paid out to provide propaganda to mislead taxpayers.
This is the money sentence. And we demand our power and representation back.
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