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Our childish insistence on calling soldiers heroes deadens real democracy
Salon ^ | NOV 9th | David Masciotra

Posted on 11/09/2014 12:48:29 PM PST by OL Hickory

Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members and police officers as “heroes.”

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: davidmasciotra; fus; heros; not; salon; soldiers
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To: Da Coyote

Salon has come unhinged more than usual since election day last week. Their true vile nature always surfaces when they get their asses handed to them.


61 posted on 11/09/2014 1:50:54 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: raybbr

A hero today is someone who does things you don’t want to do.

A cop is not a hero, unless he pulls someone out of a burning car.

I appreciate our military. I feel they should be honored. But not worshipped.

And to those who suggest our time in Iraq and Afghanistan was intended to protect our liberties, I might suggest they think about what liberties they had in 1975 and compare them to today.

Yes, I think hero is over used.


62 posted on 11/09/2014 1:57:49 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Pinheaded opinions aside, anyone who is taking fire for our country is a hero. Hero? - It is an understatement.


63 posted on 11/09/2014 2:01:08 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: OL Hickory

I know we have to post accurate titles and sources but I wish there was some way around that. As soon as I saw “Salon,” I didn’t need to read any further.


64 posted on 11/09/2014 2:05:08 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: mrsmel

this guy should receive about a million letters on this one


65 posted on 11/09/2014 2:05:42 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: OL Hickory

66 posted on 11/09/2014 2:07:24 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: OL Hickory

Makes perfect sense, considering it comes from limp wristed faggots that could not last a day in my Beloved Corps.

Happy birthday, Marines!


67 posted on 11/09/2014 2:10:23 PM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: OL Hickory
"Contrarianism is distinction for the untalented" -Dennis Miller.

Masciotra is best known for writing a fawning biography of has-been pop star John Mellencamp. He is obviously a far-gone media culture conformist, "media" to include the entertainment media. While he apes leftist attitudes in this piece, it is missing the point for anyone to call him a "leftist." He will, like all such conformists since the 1960s, advocate whatever position most glorifies the corrupt values of the media culture. The latter, of course, is ultimately based on the requirements of the advertising industry. Since most advertising since the 50s has been based on false contrarianism, someone seeking status within that culture must also take a superficially contrarian position. Tell-tale signs include the broad generalizations, barely concealed snobbery, and self righteous tone of such work.

For more on this subject see The Conquest of Cool, Thomas M. Frank's damning expose of the historical relationship between the advertising industry and leftist culture and politics since the early 60s. Among other things, Frank demonstrates that ad agency Doyle, Dane, Bernback essentially invented the "youth counterculture" ("hippies") in the mid-60s (though they did not actually coin the term "hippy.") That Frank himself is a lefty, though a real one, only makes his message that much more credible.

68 posted on 11/09/2014 2:16:34 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: OL Hickory

It is interesting to me that this hero worshipping military service praise comes along when American men have largely refused to serve.

Most of us veterans here served when enlisting was common, and the media and even the people didn’t treat us very well, in recent decades the military has had to take females and 42 year olds as they try to fill the ranks.


69 posted on 11/09/2014 2:21:18 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: atomic conspiracy
After reading Frank's book "What's The Matter With Kansas" I take anything written or spoken by Frank with a grain of salt. He vomited so much b.s. in that book, I'd have a really tough time taking anything he said seriously.

I haven't read the book about the advertising industry, but I sincerely doubt an ad agency created the hippie culture. The forces of time, societal pressures, and circumstance are responsible. Did ad agencies try to cash in?...sure. But created it....no.

70 posted on 11/09/2014 2:24:11 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: OL Hickory

Liberals are in a pathetic snit post-election.


71 posted on 11/09/2014 2:25:17 PM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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To: raybbr

Miscastrato conflates “our culture” with the ejesta of politicians and other media, who evoke the term hero in an attempt at reflected glory. Real people know what a hero is, and is not. Another overworked term is “intellectual”, self-applied by leftist bloggers.


72 posted on 11/09/2014 2:29:50 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: DirtyPigpen

My son is a Marine and yes he is my hero. God bless each and every man or women in our military. I know that we are free because of our armed forces. I thank God for each and everyone of our soldiers. Ditto for all the vets.

That young sissy boy doesn’t have a clue, his panties are probably too tight and are cutting off the blood flow to his brain.


73 posted on 11/09/2014 2:38:32 PM PST by Do the math (Doug)
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To: OL Hickory

May we never have enclaves of such male praying mantises as this author anywhere near us.


74 posted on 11/09/2014 2:48:17 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Agreed.

Yes, because that’s why they’re “worshipped”. Because they’re white and in uniform. Not because they go to battle and risk their lives....no, nothing to do with that.

Idiot writer - I’m willing to bet he’s a homosexual.

*Worshipped = admired and respected. Fools.


75 posted on 11/09/2014 2:48:26 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: PROCON

I will pay for the bus or plane fare to get him there!


76 posted on 11/09/2014 2:49:36 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: central_va

The men even appeared more mature and manly back then. I compare actors sometimes-that Leonardo guy to, say Clark Gable at roughly the same age. Gable looks like a grown man, Leonardo like Peter Pan.


77 posted on 11/09/2014 2:56:43 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: OL Hickory
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78 posted on 11/09/2014 2:58:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The mid-term elections were perfect for him. Now Obama can really lead from behind.)
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To: PROCON

He looks like he’s a few chromosomes short. The testosterone level is weak with this one.


79 posted on 11/09/2014 3:04:09 PM PST by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: PghBaldy

He thinks the only real heroes are queers.


80 posted on 11/09/2014 3:06:58 PM PST by abclily
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