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To: BroJoeK
First -- of course Creation can account for anything & everything, but by definition, Creation is not science.

That was actually pretty close.

First --- of course Creation can account for anything and everything, but by definition, only the interpretation and dogma of the religion of science can be allowed.

Any time that science can be used to prove building blocks of creation, it ceases to be science.

You folks are scared to death to allow evolution to withstand the same scrutiny you expect creation to stand up to.

You're basically frauds, and haven't the slightest clue that you are.

229 posted on 11/13/2014 12:03:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The mid-term elections were perfect for him. Now Obama can really lead from behind.)
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To: DoughtyOne
DoughtyOne: "First --- of course Creation can account for anything and everything, but by definition, only the interpretation and dogma of the religion of science can be allowed."

First, you seem doggedly determined not to grasp the simplest of ideas, so let me try analogies: we don't teach English in Math classes, we don't teach Shop in History classes, we don't teach Chemistry in Phys Ed, we don't teach Spanish in German classes, and we don't teach Religion in Science classes. Comprende?

Second, it's a lie to claim that science is a "religion", for at least the following reasons:

  1. Science deals only in facts and theories, not "faith".
  2. Science begins with confirmed observations, not with "revealed Truth".
  3. Science explicitly excludes a Spiritual component, while all religions are explicitly devoted to the Spiritual realm.
  4. Science is all about inquiry, investigation and debates over scientific ideas, while religions are all about, as the old song says, "trust and obey".
  5. Because it is strictly devoted to the natural-material realm, science makes no claims regarding "Higher Truth", none.
  6. There is no scientific remotely-equivalent of a religious worship service.
Third, I firmly believe that religion classes should be allowed in government-schools, certainly as voluntary electives, even after normal school hours, taught by their own ministers, priests & rabbis, subject only to limited & reasonable restrictions -- i.e., no Satanists, no suicide bombers, etc.
In such classes, taught by a minister, children can be introduced to the idea that science is just one aspect of life, not the Be-All and End-All of life, that there is something out there, a spiritual realm, which goes far beyond science and is ultimately in charge of science, and here is the Book where you can learn about that, let's start with Genesis...

Pal, do you not "get" that?
You don't want atheist government teachers teaching that stuff, you want the proper people in the proper conditions telling your children about the Majesty of Almighty God!

DoughtyOne: "Any time that science can be used to prove building blocks of creation, it ceases to be science."

Rubbish. By definition, it ceases to be science when you introduce a non-natural, spiritual element.
That is the point where it leaves science class, and goes into a properly taught religion class.

DoughtyOne: "You folks are scared to death to allow evolution to withstand the same scrutiny you expect creation to stand up to."

Rubbish. We want creation taught by ministers, priests or rabbis, not by officially atheistic government employee teachers.

DoughtyOne: "You're basically frauds, and haven't the slightest clue that you are."

Sorry pal, but it's you who are the liar and fraud, and now you know it, so you need to stop with the nonsense.
Constant, knowing lying is very bad for your soul.


230 posted on 11/14/2014 4:27:24 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective..)
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