Posted on 10/29/2014 2:22:07 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
.... Pope Francis, the head of the Roman Catholic Church, said that Darwinian evolution is real, and so is the Big Bang....
...the new Pope's quasi-heretical claim isn't anywhere near the first of its kind. The church first brought evolution into the fold in 1950 with the work of Pope Pius XII, writes io9. “At the same time, Catholics take no issue with the Big Bang theory, along with cosmological, geological, and biological axioms touted by science.”
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Bring back Benedict.
....and I am not Catholic, btw.
I’m not Catholic either but he also said there would be no big bang without God.
Perhaps he thinks that his job is to lead, not to merely echo what he considers to be the unenlightened beliefs of his followers.
“When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.
Denying the omnipotence of God is heresy. This man does not speak as the Vicar of Christ. He is just another crazy Jesuit.
His message about God seems to be subservient to his notion that evolution is credible.
Clearly, the message of the Bible is that God is Creator.
Does evolution claim that God created man? Because that is what this article quotes the Pope as saying.
Pope Pius XII said it was permissible for theologians to study it. He also stated that Adam was a real individual from which all men descend, and there were no men before him. He condemned polygenism, which is the opposite view. This is a very far cry from what is claimed in the article concerning Pius XII.
He apparently has chosen to downplay the testimony of the ancient texts, whatever his motivation.
Thanks for the clarification.
I gotta tell you, this stuff from Francis seems to be off base.
Our world is going dark, and he is championing a viewpoint that at best downplays man’s need for a Saviour.
The message of Christianity is that man devolved after creation—which is why we need Jesus.
Is a pope was supposed to have “followers”?
I was taught this as a child in the Catholic Church— Intelligent Design. I agree. Science and Religion are not opposite.
I don’t know which is worse, the slovenly, off-the-cuff way in which Francis casually spouts off heretical propositions or the foul glee of the enemies of the Church who lap it up.
Bring back Benedict indeed.
The Pope MUST distinguish as Pius XII did. There is no theoretical problem with having the human body develop from pre-existing species, and indeed one can see the concept anticipated in St. Augustine’s notions of seminal or potential creation which is only actualized through time.
But the soul is created immediately by God and *is not subject* to any kind of evolutionary change—and how could it be, since it’s not material?
I will add also that the Abbé Lemaitre, who first came up with the Big Bang theory BEGGED the Pope at the time not to push any link with Genesis. He was a good scientist with a theory and didn’t want the Church to fall with a theory that he knew might someday be proved wrong.
“When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,”
Yikes. I think I know what he’s saying....but does he not hear himself???
I think anyone who is head of a large organization will have followers, unless he takes no stance on anything.
"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."
And God “created” evolution. Evolution is a process, not an agent.
” He was a good scientist with a theory and didn’t want the Church to fall with a theory that he knew might someday be proved wrong.”
I have to agree that the Church has a long history of being wrong in its understanding of the world—its long insistence that the earth was the center of the universe being perhaps the most famous. But I think that Lemaitre’s objection with the Church delving into scientific matters was more fundamental than that it might back the wrong theory:
“It was Lemaître’s firm belief that scientific endeavour should stand isolated from the religious realm. With specific regard to his Big Bang theory, he commented: ‘As far as I can see, such a theory remains entirely outside any metaphysical or religious question.’ Lemaître had always been careful to keep his parallel careers in cosmology and theology on separate tracks, in the belief that one led him to a clearer comprehension of the material world, while the other led to a greater understanding of the spiritual realm... ...Not surprisingly, he was frustrated and annoyed by the Pope’s deliberate mixing of theology and cosmology.” Simon Singh (2010). Big Bang. HarperCollins UK. p. 362
He is not the Pope Catholics need in these dark times. We need direction, clarity, truth! And all we get from him is confusion, misinterpretations, mixed messages.
Totally agree with you but evolutionists real, it doesn’t contradict scripture and Christians should stop making this a theological issue!
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