Not a dummy by any means, but has that same endearingly combative bouquet.
Something about the attitude seems to ring a chord from the distant past.
Even the nicks sound like next door neighbors.
/FReeper nostalgia .. lol
Posted on 10/27/2014 9:05:45 AM PDT by Enlightened1
Something about the attitude seems to ring a chord from the distant past.
Even the nicks sound like next door neighbors.
/FReeper nostalgia .. lol
Subway at rush hour
You're much more generous than me !
No difference. Except influenza and the common cold dont cause GI symptoms, so Ebola can spread in several more ways than the common cold.
What about the people traveling along the Connecticut Turnpike or MassTurnpike. Princess Nurse who was too good to stay in quarantine in New Jersey will be traveling to Maine. It’s a 5+ hour drive so she’ll probably stop at a rest room along the turnpike. Then she’ll be hungry and stop for a cup of Dunkin Donuts coffee and a bagel.
Imagine walking into one of those bathrooms, desperate to go, and see the little Debbie Wasserman look alike walking out. Yikes.
But that is normally not one of the Ebola symptoms, is it? Vomiting and diarrhea, yes, flu-like symptoms (!), yes, blood from any openings, yes.
But I don't see sneezing and/or coughing, unless the Ebola patient also has a cold/flu?
The good news that it's part of huge batch sitting on a shiny new shelf somewhere in the fascist bowels of the DHS.
The bad news is that it's all expired.
Sorry about your our luck !
” Myth Busters showed a sneeze can travel several feet..”
Over 15 feet for some sneezes. Plus there’e the air wafting it around. It’s not the sneeze goes 3 feet straight into an air filter!
It isn’t going to take off by people being sneezed on.
If it took off, it would be for the same reason it spread in Africa — inattention to standard precautions.
The Flu — that is infectious. See how many people get the flu each year? How if one person in a household gets it, there is a reasonable chance that most or all of the household will get it?
Hepititis A is a very infectious disease, which lives for a long time outside of a host, and can therefore be spread through contaminated food products.
Malaria — that’s infectious because mosquitoes can carry it from person to person.
Measles — we vaccinate against this, for good reason. If one person in a room has measles, and you sit in that room for an hour, you are more likely than not to end up with it. If Ebola was “infectious” like measles, Africa would be dead.
TB — if untreated, it kills 50% of the time. And about 1/3rd the world has it. It is airborne. It is nasty. Luckily, we have a vaccine.
But note: If you take the diseases that are TRULY infectious, realize that even with widespread vaccination, more people catch these diseases every year than have ever caught Ebola.
Ebola kills half the people who get it. THAT is what makes it scary. Ebola is highly NON-CONTAGIOUS. It is HARD to catch.
That doesn’t make it safe. Risk has many components, in this case the low risk of infection is countered by the high risk of death if infected.
Still, if I didn’t have a full set of vaccinations, I’d much rather sit in a room with an Ebola patient than with a Malaria patient, or a TB patient, or a Measles patient.
In fact, it could be argued that the reason we don’t have a vaccine for Ebola is that it simply wasn’t worth the money relative to other diseases. If you only have so much money to spend, why spend it on an illness that has a worldwide death rate counted in thousands?
I think people do get it. CDC just said you CAN get it through the air. The distinction you point out is an important one for epidemiologists, but not for the public at large.
So let me ask you... would you go into a room without any protection where an Eobla patient was being treated, sit somewhere where you were not at risk of coming in contact with vomit, blood, or diarrhea, and remain breathing the room air without any sort of mask or filter for 2 hours?
I would not. And I would not blame anyone else who would not, either.
My daughter is a Registered Nurse working in the Pediatric Intensive Care Unit (PICU) at a major academic hospital in our state. Her unit has been designated as the pediatric Ebola center for the state. Our state is likely to be one of the ones where Ebola presents, due to travel patterns from Africa. Do you really think we should be comforted by the CDC's poster?
It's easy to sit back and get frustrated by people who "just don't get it", but when you're on the front line, and it becomes more real to you, then things look a little different.
Airborne???!!!!
That’s exactly what I thought. Thank you!
“If Ebola ever actually became Airborne, we’d know it by the hundreds of thousands of Africans who suddenly became infected.”
Finally, some sense and reason. Almost exactly what I said weeks ago.
“What IS clear is that the CDC is completely unprepared to handle a REAL infectious disease.”
So far the CDC has managed to limit perhaps the worlds most deadly disease[a single microscopic virus can infect] in America to two cases of infection(in America) and no deaths. By “REAL infectious” disease, I am taking it that you mean a currently non-existent highly deadly, AIRBORNE disease. You may be right. The CDC is dealing with known diseases.
The US already has many infectious diseases. Influenza and pneumonia are one of the leading causes of deaths. Is that due to CDC incompetence? I don’t think so. They are trying to encourage healthy lifestyle and vaccination for prevention. What are they supposed to do? The average American, contrary to all scientific evidence and good sense eats:
Too much food
Too much fat (especially saturated and added fats
Too much sugar
Too little nutrition
Too many environmental poisons
And 70% are taking some form of prescription drugs, and many more are taking over-the-counter drugs. Then there is alcoholism and illegal drugs.
It is the American people who are completely unprepared for a REAL infectious disease.
Mythbusters’ results... ~15 feet, ~35mph
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_%282010_season%29#Episode_147_.E2.80.93_.22Flu_Fiction.22
“Princess Nurse”
:)
Lattes and tofu for sure..
and maybe she doesn’t do anything as common as pee like lessor women do..
I don’t claim any such thing so I can’t help you out.
Only from the people on the bus.
Yup.
Ronald Reagan says loss of freedom is only one generation away.
3 feet? BS. It can travel as far as it can live and that can be a loooong distance.
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