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U.S. Navy: Please save the USS Ranger from the scrap heap!
change.org ^ | Rachel Shelton

Posted on 10/23/2014 5:13:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

The USS Ranger maintains an important place in the military and cultural history of the United States, as well as in the personal history of the thousands of Navy, Marine, and Air Force personnel who served on board. The ship served the country with distinction in the Vietnam (earning 13 battle stars) and Gulf (flying more combat missions than any other carrier) Wars, as well as in humanitarian missions. Noted entertainers, including Bob Hope, Raquel Welch, Les Brown, Suzanne Somers, Gladys Knight & The Pips and Marie Osmond entertained on the flight deck. Noted visitors to Ranger include astronaut Neil Armstrong, then-VP George H.W. Bush, and Queen Elizabeth II. The ship appeared in both “Top Gun” and “Star Trek IV.” And, this cause is a personal one for my family: One of the shipmates aboard in Vietnam was my father, and I also "served" on board for three days as a baby.

In October 2013, the Navy announced that it was essentially giving away the USS Forrestal, a similar carrier, for scrap. On 18 February 2014, Forrestal arrived at the scrapyard in Texas - making Ranger's situation that much more critical. On 5 May, we got the sad news that USS Saratoga, anohther of Ranger's sister ships, is also headed for scrap, and was also given away. On 13 June NAVSEA awarded a contract for the scrapping of a Bremerton-based carrier - USS Consetllation - this time at a $3M cost to US taxpayers. In fact, all four Forrestal-class carriers are currently designated "Stricken - to be disposed of." Please don't let this happen to the Ranger! Tell the Navy that you care about this important piece of our history and want it to reconsider plans to turn the ship into a museum so that future generations can learn about its history firsthand.

I started this petition because I truly believe that by working together we can make a difference, and that we simply cannot abandon this ship without at least putting up a good fight and making our voices heard.

Please sign and join us! Join us on Twitter @SaveUSSRanger and speak up on social media using #SaveTheRanger #CVA61 #CV61 #SaveTopGun

Thank you!


TOPICS: Announcements; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bhodod; ranger; usnavy; ussranger
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1 posted on 10/23/2014 5:13:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Jim Robinson

Posted this thread at the request of Navy Vet:

“Would y’all sign this petition and repost and ask your friends to sign it? I know that it’s not very important in the overall scheme of things, but it’s important to me personally. This is the ship we sailed across the Pacific and through the Philipine Sea and South China Sea and into the Tonkin Gulf off the coast of Vietnam where she earned her 13th battle star, more than any other aircraft carrier in the Vietnam War. During the Persian Gulf conflict she also flew more combat missions than any other carrier. She’s a piece of American history. The Navy has condemned her to be cut up for scrap, but the city of Long Beach, California, unanimously voted to ask for her to come there to be turned into a museum.The Navy talks like the decision to scrap her is final, but they said that about the USS Iowa, too, and she was rescued. We need 10,000 signatures. We currently have 3,707. I’d like to see her again before I pass on, but that’s unlikely to happen even if she is saved from the scrap yard, but I’d like for my children and/or grandchildren to be able to see her if they’re ever out that way.”

— John xxxxxxxxxxx


2 posted on 10/23/2014 5:19:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

**** “Noted entertainers, including Bob Hope, Raquel Welch, Les Brown, Suzanne Somers, Gladys Knight & The Pips and Marie Osmond” *****

And Lee Greenwood “God Bless the USA” when I was on her

TT


3 posted on 10/23/2014 5:24:07 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: TexasTransplant

Thank you for your service!


4 posted on 10/23/2014 5:25:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: TexasTransplant

Tried to find a video of him singing that on the Ranger. No luck. So this will have to do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01A7ec7_OxU


5 posted on 10/23/2014 5:31:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

I served on the Ranger 1990-1993. I spent Desert Storm on .50 cal gun mount 6. I was surprised at how darn cold it got out there at night. The Ranger was my favorite duty station of my career.


6 posted on 10/23/2014 5:33:26 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: EternalVigilance

When G.W. Bush came aboard Ranger it was the second time that I had met him ... the Man had a Phenomenal Memory! He remembered when I met him on USS Kitty Hawk and he remembered my First Name ... and addressed me by it when we were trading patches and hats ... after he left all of the guys in the Division asked me “You Know Him?”

“Oh yeah ... we go way back”

Good times!

TT

Almost had a 3rd meeting with him but because of Security I had to settle for Secret Service ... I gave them my First and Last name ... when they let us return to our Office there was a Stack of 8 1/2 x 11 Glossies of Ronald and Nancy Reagan, George and Barbara Bush with a note from Bush Thanking me for my Service.


7 posted on 10/23/2014 5:40:06 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: EternalVigilance

I was surprised to find out that Ranger CV-61 actually sailed around and was an active ship until 1992.

I could have sworn I toured the ship when I was a kid in NJ, in the 60’s. It was a fun trip, it was anchored in NYC. However it doesn’t especially look like there is much record of the ship being on the East Coast at all other than Norfolk.

I can appreciate your wish to preserve the ship. It is/would be a towering, astronomical amount of work. But I think you know that.


8 posted on 10/23/2014 5:40:27 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: TexasTransplant

H.W. (not W) sheesh


9 posted on 10/23/2014 5:42:05 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: aomagrat

God bless you for your service.


10 posted on 10/23/2014 5:44:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: TexasTransplant

That’s awesome. As many political differences as I have with the Bushes, I have to say that they understand the military, and demonstrated a lot of care about our people.


11 posted on 10/23/2014 5:46:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
I think one has to go further than just saving the ship. It costs MONEY to save these ships, and we are broke. You are asking for everyone to foot the bill for sentimental value. What is needed is a business plan to make it viable, rather than another museum that just sits there rusting away.

Here is a current example:

"USS TEXAS needs substantial long term funding for staffing and to maintain the ship, in addition to an immediate and urgent need for funds to undergo a massive stabilization and/or restoration to prevent imminent loss of historical integrity.

The benefit Texas has, is it carries the name of a great state, which taxpayers have been willing to carry some of the burden. But you are asking for a perpetual tax burden, and it needs to be thought out.

My recommendation? Turn it into a world class military academy AND museum. Everything needed is already there.

12 posted on 10/23/2014 5:48:49 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

Sounds like a GREAT idea.


13 posted on 10/23/2014 5:51:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

I sailed on the U.S.S. Independence CV-62 (Sister to the Ranger). I would like to see the Ranger saved as she is important to history and granted that Indy can’t be saved as she was stripped down to her bones to provide parts for other carriers while in mothballs. The 59 class was the tip of spear during the cold war.


14 posted on 10/23/2014 6:07:50 PM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: Trueblackman

Thanks for serving our country, Trueblackman.

And thanks for the support, and for bumping the thread. I hope lots of folks will go sign the petition.


15 posted on 10/23/2014 6:20:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
We lost so many great ships, all with history, how is this one different?

The Iowa is razor blades now. As are another several hundred.

16 posted on 10/23/2014 6:38:52 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

The USS Iowa is a museum now in Los Angeles:

http://www.pacificbattleship.com/


17 posted on 10/23/2014 6:41:02 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: EternalVigilance

BTTT!


18 posted on 10/23/2014 6:42:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: exit82
MY BAD!!! I;m glad one of her class has been preserved.

Perhaps I should have chosen the Wisconsin as an example. Or any of hundreds that have been scrapped in the past.

I had a particular affinity for the Benjamin Stoddert. I believe the Adams Class DDG epitomized the DD platform.

Simply BEAUTIFUL. Long, low, fast. High bow, very low fantail. Sleek lines.

19 posted on 10/23/2014 6:45:21 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: EternalVigilance
My old ship got scrapped in 1993. She served well for 35 years. And I do experience some sentimental twinge when I see her picture.

That said, I most likely won't be going back to sea, and neither will the other thousands of people who made her function through her useful lifetime.

All that steel, aluminum, and whatever else that can be scrapped from her will much better serve the purposes of current and future sailors (like my son) after it has been reworked into a more modern fighting vessel.

Anchors aweigh!

20 posted on 10/23/2014 6:49:29 PM PDT by meadsjn
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