Posted on 10/19/2014 5:24:54 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
This weekend marked the 24th annual Pumpkin Festival in Keene, New Hampshire, but instead of good times and fun, festivalgoers found themselves in the middle of a riot when a fight broke out and spilled into the streets.
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piecing this together. What happened in Keene?
WTNH News 8 blames it on alcohol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RymqKwiEf0
but was alcohol the only reason? was it, in fact, linked to this? was the disruption planned?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-TssOBmWA4
Most people would view having Homeland Security at such a mega-event as a plus. Our protection is in place, those who’s job it is to protect us are watching over us, and we can blissfully pretend that terrorism doesn’t exist in our part of the world. But some who tend to anarchy and who tend to be know-it-alls at 20 might view that as provocation - or, to be more truthful, just another reason to become provokers themselves and act like precocious 4yo’ds.
As to the “riot” itself and how it’s different from Ferguson is that while the police response was the same, the crowd response was much different. As the videos below show, the crowd was not ‘white people’ as some are quick to focus, but a mix of races, from asian to black to hispanic to white to middle-eastern.
Yes, an automobile was beat to death, several signs were murdered, 30 people were injured by thrown objects, a nursing home had to lock it’s doors and 14 to 50, depending on the source, were arrested, but no buildings burned or were looted. When the final order to return to their homes was issued, the crowd complied. The acting out never spilled over to the festival itself.
A party on Wilcox, one of many advertised on social media, grew too large. Those who couldn’t get in threw beer bottles at the attendees in the back yard. A beer and ball tossing fight broke out on Winchester Court (warning: nekked fool at 3:30 mark).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIu8FNXx5aI
The bottle-throwing escallated, two sides formed, some misthrows striking spectators. 911 was called multiple times. The local police and firemen/medics arrive to assist the injured at the party house and elsewhere, to clear the street and wait for backup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tsSKAsVZfo
meanwhile, on Winchester, a brainless wonder takes out a street sign and at 2:03 mark another brainchild slings a waterbottle towards the police:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkWoTrhDsyc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRz2V0fsRII
Riot-equipped police arrive. They form a line (dog(s) present), order people off the street and deploy pepperspray and pepperballs to clear the street. People start posing for selfies with the police line in the background and the house parties go back to partying. Nobody’s complaining about excessive force. Beginning at 3:38 mark, one idiot is arrested for trying to walk past the police line. A trooper explains at 7:10 that pepper balls don’t hurt. By the 7:20 mark everybody is back to happy drunk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ3qMpgZjwg
Twilight falls and our video-challenged instigating streamer hits the streets: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/liberty-patrol
‘Riot’ and ‘round 2’ of his videos don’t show much except the peaceful aftermath and relatively clear streets as twilight falls. The clip ‘Round 4’ gets interesting at the 28 minute mark, in that it shows a group of at least four, that take off in tandem to flip a car (but can’t flip the SUV they choose first). Five minutes later a car is successfully flipped, followed by someone damaging another car, to the anger of the crowd, some of whom photo the guilty and speak out angrily. Vandalism of cars can be heard but not seen.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/54170346
‘car dance’ captured by skynews. The overturned donation bins shown below are likely the noise heard in the previous video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWvD_geg9j4
A street fire is started. The crowd sings “The Star Spangled Banner”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LeCxOXJIdU
nightly news summary, Fox 25:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0qGcpc5XJw
An hour later, the streets are clear, the crowd heeding the warning to return to their homes.
meanwhile, AT the pumpkin festival, life is normal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QnfT5fTIaw
The next morning, Keene State students begin a clean-up campaign amid community shaming:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/19/at-least-14-arrested-during-keene-pumpkin-festival-disturbances/
Those are the “Free Staters” who have invaded Keene. Militant Libertarians.
I’m the all-night drug-prowling wolf, who looks so sick in the sun.....
Thanks for the exhaustive research of the Great Pumpkin Riots of 2014.
And it is refreshing to learn the the rioters, while setting other people’s property on fire were singing the Star-Spangled Banner.
I’m sure the the people who had their cars destroyed and property burned, have a respect and appreciation for the rioters’ patriotism.
LOL, excellent!
Does that mean all us 'white people' can get in a huff? Have we been dissed by cops who tried to stop our 'fun'?
Can we riot and loot?
Is there such a thing as 'white poverty pimps' or 'community leaders' we can call on? I want a pity party... I want a pity party.
Or being white will we do our usual - and not identify with the hooligans whatsoever?
How soon can it be before Pat Boone goes there to quell the....uhhh....violence?
Alcohol and pumpkins don’t mix.
BEST BAND EVER!!!
That’s what ISIS does with the heads of the vanquished.
Because they are members of the ROP, don’t you know?
Oh I don’t know about that...pumpkin beer?
I remember when NH was a bastion of sanity.
The MSM will not draw a contrast but social and black media is alive with those comparing Keene to Ferguson as proof of racism versus white privilege in Liberalland. The videos defeat those arguments and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the police responded exactly the same way to Keene crowds as they did to the Ferguson crowds - including deploying teargas. It was the Keene crowd that responded differently to those within their ranks acting provocatively that marks the real contrast. And is the entire point of my post.
Unlike Ferguson, the acting out didn’t translate to the larger Keene crowd. There was no immediate jump to ‘rage’. Take the house that was peppersprayed - nobody came out and attacked the police; twenty minutes later they were back to partying. Both the afternoon and evening “riot” which happened hours later ended much differently than Ferguson’s night ended. Pointing out the differences in crowd dynamics doesn’t equate to condoning the behavior.
I’d be mad as a hornet if that was my car overturned. I might be a little happier to have footage in hand before it’s scrubbed, tho.
Have you ever seen a commie carve a pumpkin? No, you won’t because they carve beets.
Your hard-core commie throws a pumpkin in the air and it comes down squash.
Whiter than white? Hell to the yes....we talkin’ pasty white.
Forgot Obummer is half cracker, so the cops musta been racist.
“Keene Pumpkin Festival Rioters Threw Full Liquor Bottles and Billiard Balls at Police, Officials Say”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3217569/posts
Do you happen to know if the rioters were singing the Star-Spangled Banner as they were assaulting police officers with billiard balls and full liquor bottles?
Now, could you further explain how the Keene riots and Ferguson riots differed and what you think should be done to rioters that throw full liquor bottles at the police?
The presence of “billiard balls” or vodka bottles still doesn’t negate my argument that the crowd dynamics were different to identical police tactics, or of my stance that any argument of racial inequality in police response is complete nonsense.
Objects were thrown at the police. At Ferguson and at Keene. We get it. Who did the throwing or caused the damage, not what was thrown, is the question at hand. What was thrown is a distraction.
As for the anarchists, I don’t think they care much for the Star Spangled, much less sticking around post-vandalism to lead a group singalong. More likely, they’d prefer a few rousing verses of Le Internationale instead - if they can remember the words.
It was reportedly the decision of the fire department to let the street fire burn being it didn’t pose a threat to any structures. This attracted the drunk singers. After a loonytoon decided firewalking might be fun, the boys in yellow moved everyone back.
Speaking of which, here’s some good news. The student who’s car was flipped met his replacement goal in just one day. The heading reveals one alleged perp, the comments another, and one definitely is not a Keene U student.
http://www.gofundme.com/g0xh4o
There have been over 84 arrests in the last 48 hours. Colleges in several states are cooperating in helping to identify those involved. In the meantime, Keene is sitting quietly at home waiting for justice to play out in it’s slow and sure way:
“College President Anne Huot said in an emailed statement that the festival has been promoted by others “as a destination for destructive and raucous behavior”...”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/19/keene-riot_n_6011230.html?flv=1
“detectives said they will use images on social media to identify more people involved.”
http://www.wmur.com/news/more-arrests-possible-after-keene-riots/29232774#ixzz3GkVypMa2
“According to Student Body President Bobby Graham, the majority of students were not involved in the riots....”When I was out there helping people, I didn’t see faces I recognized,” said Graham. “And if I did, I saw spectators.”
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