Posted on 10/15/2014 2:25:23 AM PDT by zeestephen
A second Texas healthcare worker who treated the first patient in the United States to be diagnosed with Ebola has tested positive for the disease, the Texas Department of State Health Services said in a statement on Wednesday.
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The Dallas pastor who is the spokesman for the Duncan family was on CNN the other night. Said the group is all doing well at the private house. They avoid all contact with each other and take their temps multiple times a day. He said they have one more week under quarantine.
We need to quit calling it the Ebola epidemic or the HN whatever the hell it is killing kids all over America, and start calling with EVERY thread, political speech and news article “The Democrats Biological Warfare on America”. Please help.
#6 - bad news here, the virus can bind to receptors in human skin. Skin provides no brainier to the virus and can be colonized by it. That is what makes the virus so horrific, it has adapted perfectly to our anatomy and can pass right through human skin, break or not.
And this is how it starts.
I saw an interview of the pastor on Fox a couple days ago. It is so wonderful how the church has been so supportive of the Duncan family through this terrible situation. What a testimony to Christ!
Next you’ll be telling me it’s time to worry when our nation’s leaders evacuate to the mine shafts.
This study was very recent. Temperature spikes are not always present apparently:
“Yet the largest study of the current outbreak found that in nearly 13% of “confirmed and probable” cases in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and elsewhere, those infected did not have fevers.”
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-81653963/
I can't imagine death from Ebola being more pleasant.
Can you imagine if this happened with Bush in the White House?
This would have been Katrina times a thousand.
I put this together for family on October 6th. Right on schedule so far.
Timeline
Sept. 20 Duncan Arrives in Dallas
Sept. 24 Duncan becomes sick and is probably now contagious
Sept 28 is isolated at hospital (allowing 4 days of exposure to family while contagious)
Sept 30th confirmed Ebola all precautions should now be in place
Oct. 6 Family was exposed 12 days ago, exceeding average time to show symptoms of 8-10 days
Oct 15 [initial]Paramedics and other people exposed should show symptoms by now if infected
Oct 19th family quarantine should end if none have shown symptoms
Oct 31st Chance of anyone infected from initial exposure gone, only poor medical practices now remain as a potential spread
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Regarding contagiousness: I am not a virology expert but here is some basic logic. The virus come into contact with a persons body fluids to cause infection. I.e. a break in the skin, the eyes, nose mouth etc. The virus begins to replicate. I think its primary area of action in the first few days is limited to the blood stream. It is not that a person could not possibly transmit the virus before showing symptoms, it is that it is extremely improbably with casual contact. If you drink their blood, yeah you are going to get Ebola. More realistically, if you are passionately kissing them and they have bleeding gums, you are definitely at risk.
Every moment that goes by the quantity of the virus is increasing, because the immune system’s response is hampered by the virus itself. So every day that goes by there is an increased chance of transmissibility. The reason, I believe, that the “until symptoms” is given as the contagious time is that the probability before that time is very low. Note that no one on the plane with Duncan contracted the disease, and the 21 day period is well expired.
This is also partly why people are perceived as more contagious in the late stages. It is not because it is airborne. Every body fluid is now thoroughly suffused with the virus. Further, the patients are now very prone to vomiting, and bleeding. In addition their natural waste of feces and urine must be dealt with. Everything is highly contagious. It would be extremely difficult to deal with all those fluids, and remove all protective gear and never have anything touch you.
CDC: Honestly, given what we know from MSF and Doctors Without Borders, the CDC guidelines seems to be somewhat irresponsibly under-cautious. However the Hospital itself bears as much responsibility as the CDC. I cannot imagine why they let seventy people in that room. MSF strictly allows only absolutely necessary workers in the confirmed infected areas. I hope the other workers will be safe, for the sake of them and their families.
QUICK! Put her in a van and take her to the mall. According to the Minister of Health and Propaganda (CDC) isolation (as in stopping all incoming flights) causes the disease to spread. According to the Minister, if we are going to stop this, isolation is not the answer.
It's encouraging that of all the people that were exposed to Duncan prior to his being hospitalized, including those in close proximity on airplanes, in airports, and on the streets of Dallas, none has gotten the disease. Zero. Which to me lends credence to the idea that the contagious period really commences with onset of symptoms. Thank god.
http://www.naturalnews.com/047267_Ebola_outbreak_incubation_period_viral_transmission.html#ixzz3GDu8H4NY
But, don't worry: 5,700 hospitals in the United States; only four have biohazard isolation units suitable for Ebola patients
http://www.naturalnews.com/047265_Ebola_pandemic_US_hospitals_biohazard_isolation_units.html#ixzz3GDuMZ2qJ
Is it time to stop all flights out of West Africa now?
Shades of the Hurricane on Staten Island... Only unions can do the cleaning, all mafya fronts.
“It ain’t over.”
Correct. We ain’t seen nuttin’ yet.
Me and Mrs. panax aren’t at the panic level yet, but we are adding to our list of staples daily; more bottled water, canned goods, tp, bleach, medical, etc.
All it will take is one ‘suspected’ case at our small local hospital and the shelves will be cleared from the stores within a couple of hours.
We’re pretty much self-sufficient up here in the woods, with the exception of the usual Dr. visits & Rx. I’d just as soon never have to go into town at all, but sometimes you have to.
Prepare to hunker down at home for a while.
The news in Austin just reported she was ID'd as Amber [missed the last name] and she had recently flown on a plane.
I agree.
But the risk for that seems quite low.
They are wearing protective suits.
What strikes me is how unlikely it is that so many “protected” workers somehow get body fluids in their nose, mouth, etc.
Also, I'd be surprised if an Ebola virus can survive the journey through the stomach, unless, of course, it finds an entry through ulcers, or if the mouth has canker sores or gum disease, or if the esophagus has been damaged by reflux.
See the latest posted article.
Even so, I remember as a Med Student in 1981 making rounds with the chief resident. He would never gown or mask or anything when we went into a patient room in isolation for TB. The nurses would get po with him daily. I asked once why he kept doing that. He answered TB just isn’t all that communicable. Ebola is. Sure, it ain’t Smallpox but the more complicated something is the greater risk Jane Sixpack will inadvertently make a mistake.
I bet it would take me half an hour to teach you to put on GLOVES and take them off again and I bet you would have to do it repeatedly for another half hour before you did it without contaminating one side or the other. With TB or HIV it ain’t that big of deal. With Smallpox or measles it is. And Ebola.
Imagine trying to do this with gloves, suit, respirator, and face shield. Just adding suit to the gloves would add another half hour back again. Try this this evening. Pay attention to every time you find your hand near your face. How many times an hour do you think you do that without even thinking? More than ten, I bet. Do it once with Ebola and you are dead. People ask me what to do about colds. Don’t get them. Same here. Problem is the Klown has left the barn door open and it may be that it is too late right now.
Consider that instead of the hours Ebola took to produce symptoms decades ago now it takes weeks. How many people have it RIGHT NOW? We won’t know for almost a month. Meanwhile those folks are merrily going about their business. Flu season hasn’t even started. I remember when the anthrax envelopes started showing up. Folks started getting Zithromax prescriptions just to hoard them. It took a while before the availability returned. And these were people who should have known better.
Read about how the staff was just collecting Duncan’s contaminated linens, etc and just putting them in a room. They were only wearing gloves for the first two days. In the ICU there is great difficulty isolating a patient as the nurses have to move from one to another. Literally thousands of opportunities a day to contaminate. Nothing is perfect.
In one month the gummint may realize the only way to treat and isolate patients with perfect confidence is a bullet and a flamethrower.
I wanted to thank you for posted that excerpt - amazing.
I remember reading that book years ago and it’s more timely now than ever, especially the final description.
I think it was in that book where there was another story about European visitors to Kitum Cave, the young son caught Marburg, not Ebola, after visiting the cave and later died. That’s when the connection was made to fruit bats being the “hiding place” of Ebola and Marburg.
Great, great read, and hits home about how what ebola does to one’s body.
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