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Goodbye Gun Control: The $1,200 Machine For 3D-Printing Guns Has Sold Out In 36 Hours
zero hedge ^ | 10/6/14 | tyker dyrdeb

Posted on 10/06/2014 12:37:17 PM PDT by Nachum

Last May, I covered the work of Defense Distributed with regard to its building of tools for individuals to 3D-print their own firearms in the post. Meet “The Liberator”: The World’s First Fully 3D-Printed Firearm, In it, I noted:

3D-printing, like decentralized crypto currencies, have the potential to change the world in which we live in extraordinary ways. Ways that are almost inconceivable at this point given we are so early in the game. More than anything else, these technologies can empower the individual like never before, and I think that is generally a very good thing.

While all sixteen pieces of the Liberator were printed in ABS plastic, the $1,200 computer-controlled (CNC) milling machine called the “Ghost Gunner,” is capable of automatically carving polymer, wood, and metal in three dimensions. More from Wired:

Americans want guns without serial numbers. And apparently, they want to make them at home.

On Wednesday, Cody Wilson’s libertarian non-profit Defense Distributed revealed the Ghost Gunner, a $1,200 computer-controlled (CNC) milling machine designed to let anyone make the aluminum body of an AR-15 rifle at home, with no expertise, no regulation, and no serial numbers. Since then, he’s sold more than 200 of the foot-cubed CNC mills—175 in the first 24 hours. That’s well beyond his expectations; Wilson had planned to sell only 110 of the machines total before cutting off orders.

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 3d; banglist; control; gun; printing
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To: Polynikes

He needs to make sure he doesn’t have a customer list and no easy way to create one, akin to what Apple just did.


21 posted on 10/06/2014 1:10:39 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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My favorite home build.

http://thechive.com/2012/12/06/apparently-you-can-make-an-ak-47-out-of-just-about-anything-25-photos/


22 posted on 10/06/2014 1:12:55 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

It is nothing but property, and non titled property at that. As far as a will goes, it is just like a hammer or a chainsaw.


23 posted on 10/06/2014 1:16:29 PM PDT by wrench
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To: thorvaldr

And, as I understood the article, all the device does is finish an 80% lower via dedicated CNC.

This is NOT the “holy grail” of “insert a block of steel, functioning gun emerges (some assembly required)”. You still need 100% of barrel, upper, stock, shroud, gas impingement, bolt, trigger complex, and a bunch of other stuff PLUS the 80% complete lower which this device does the remaining 20% on ... _then_ you have to competently put it all together, hoping all the tolerances & finish fit and function well. This is a specialty hobbyist’s tool, nothing more - nigh unto NOBODY using such a weapon in earnest for any reason would use this device to make it.


24 posted on 10/06/2014 1:16:34 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: mylife

IIRC, not an issue. You _can_ sell it (IIRC, IANAL, YMMV) but in no way can that sale smell of “business”.


25 posted on 10/06/2014 1:18:50 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Why not just go buy one? They aren’t that expensive.


26 posted on 10/06/2014 1:19:51 PM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: mylife
You can make a 100% receiver ONCE legally,

Do you mean we are only allowed to make one in our lifetime? Or did I misunderstand?

27 posted on 10/06/2014 1:20:36 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: ctdonath2

I don’t think that is right, but hey I do parts kits on serialized receivers


28 posted on 10/06/2014 1:21:29 PM PDT by mylife
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To: thackney

I mispoke, you can make as many as you like but you are kinda stuck with them forever


29 posted on 10/06/2014 1:22:46 PM PDT by mylife
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To: wrench

I try to stay out of gray areas with BATF


30 posted on 10/06/2014 1:23:57 PM PDT by mylife
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To: jim_trent

I plan on going to those EAA workshops next year. I’ve been a member for a couple of years. Other than going to Oshkosh once, I haven’t done much with it.

The ones that are left this year conflict with stuff like relative’s weddings and some job related conflicts.

Some weekday evenings I’very been learning some of the ins and 9uts of B25 restoration for display. I used to work with my hands some but haven’t much being an IT person.


31 posted on 10/06/2014 1:24:08 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
Been looking for one in Minnesota for years.

Apparently they are more secretive than the Culper spy ring.

32 posted on 10/06/2014 1:25:20 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: ctdonath2

“nigh unto NOBODY using such a weapon in earnest for any reason would use this device to make it.”

Yes, whether you use this handy gadget, or finish an 80% lower using a drill press, or router or whatever, you have only built a gun in a legal sense. The lower receiver is that part of an AR that is serialized and therefore the part that the ATF considers to be a gun. The rest of the parts are just parts and can be bought online with no paperwork.
Apparently, the original patent for the AR ran out or something, so everyone and their brother is allowed to build AR parts to the same exact specifications. Customization is considered to be the AR’s strong point and lots of people customize their guns up to and including building one from the ground up. It takes only a few specialized tools, some manual dexterity and attention to detail but no real gunsmithing.


33 posted on 10/06/2014 1:29:32 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: wally_bert

I began as an EAA member in 1964 and let it lapse while going to college. Rejoined in 1974 and have been a member ever since. My wife and I have been to about 15 EAA conventions and I highly recommend them. Staying and eating at the university dorm is pretty inexpensive. The expensive part is going through the Fly-Market.

I liked the EAA magazines 20 to 40 years ago better than now. There was a lot more people like me in them. However, it is always interesting.


34 posted on 10/06/2014 1:30:11 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: TurboZamboni

TTIWWP


35 posted on 10/06/2014 1:30:30 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Manchuria Called. They want their Candidate Back!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Just call it an undocumented migrant printer and it will be mandatory in every house.

...an undocumented migrant printer with ebola. Just to be sure.

36 posted on 10/06/2014 1:31:06 PM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: mylife

“I try to stay out of gray areas with BATF”

Absolutely! These folks building 80% guns are nuts if thy think the gooberment doesn’t know. They have everyone’s credit card purchase info, 1,000 rounds of 223 ordered, you are assumed to have an AR. Same for a barrel, fire control group, etc.

Factory lowers can b bought for $39 now, no need for all the cloak and dagger.


37 posted on 10/06/2014 1:35:24 PM PDT by wrench
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To: Jewbacca
Cody Wilson and Defense Distributed has been on the BATF’s radar for awhile, ever since he used a 3-D printer to manufacture firearms. I can bet all transactions and business his company does is under scrutiny. Can't have the rabble getting any ideas
38 posted on 10/06/2014 1:39:52 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: mylife
Yea!! You can't grow or transfer Marijuana!!
39 posted on 10/06/2014 1:41:08 PM PDT by ontap
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To: Nachum

Weaponsman is hot for one of these since he plunked his money down. A very good blog dealing with a range of subjects that interest him

http://weaponsman.com/


40 posted on 10/06/2014 1:42:52 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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