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Yet another out of stater pleading with the citizens of WA to further infringe on their rights. I'm sure nannie bloomers, moms lookin' for a little 'action', mark and gabby giffords, the brady bunch and the rest of these dim bulbs will be brightening your day before it's all said and done. Sorry about seattle and the giant lib populace that will no doubt control the outcome of this POS initiative.
1 posted on 10/06/2014 10:52:52 AM PDT by rktman
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I forgot to mention that as of this morning, approx 300 million(give or take) guns just laid around and did nothing. Odd eh?


2 posted on 10/06/2014 10:54:27 AM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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My friend just lost his son to car violence.

So let's pass meaningful car bans.

3 posted on 10/06/2014 10:55:50 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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They say they are against “gun violence” and then promote laws that only apply to legal, peaceful gun owners.


4 posted on 10/06/2014 10:58:40 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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It's a sad story and emotion is overriding his common sense.
He will be responsible for many many deaths of other people's children if yet another deadly anti-gun law goes through.

If you take guns out of the hands of the good guys, that bad guys know this.
Worse, the government, other governments, and illegal invaders know this.

Gun control laws make orphans and childless parents because less guns in the hands of good people doesn't take guns away from the lawless.

5 posted on 10/06/2014 10:58:40 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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Ok, so 'TheStranger' is an indie alternative newspaper.

We were expecting rationality from the people who view Obama as right-wing?

6 posted on 10/06/2014 10:59:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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What about the other 2 that were stabbed to death? Were is the ‘I lost my son to knife violence’ legislation? Didn’t he also run over someone as well? Where is that car legislation?


7 posted on 10/06/2014 11:00:16 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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“preventable gun violence”

There is no such thing. Guns, knives, baseball bats, frying pans, ropes, cars and trucks etc... are inanimate objects lacking any propensity to do anything.

Human beings have the ability to be violent, commit violent acts, have a propensity towards violence etc...

“Gun violence” is a made up construct that “sounds good” as well as subliminally connects a thing with an act in order for the reader, viewer or listener to automatically link an object with a behavior and then make the reflexive judgement that the propagandist strives for.


10 posted on 10/06/2014 11:04:36 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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Nah, the guy lost his son to a criminal using a gun, not “gun violence”.


13 posted on 10/06/2014 11:06:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Sorry but the tragic loss of someone’s child does not trump my right to own and carry a gun.


15 posted on 10/06/2014 11:09:03 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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On September 12, 2014, my husband took his own life, using a handgun. He was considerate enough not to use his every day carry weapon, which is really mine and registered to me. He used a gun that I didn't know he had, but again, he was considerate. He had all the registration papers set aside, to help me provide the police the needed paper trail. As I had never seen the gun, my prints were not on it.

Did I have a tragic boating accident with my guns? Hell no. I was wearing a gun when I went to the hospital to meet the ambulance, I had to go back at the door when I realized where I was. (We both have CPLs). As per usual, every time I left home to visit him, I wore my gun. I would secure it for times at the hospital and police station.

Bottom line: I am soooo sorry for this bereaved father. I understand his need to make something good come from his loss.

I also choose to make something good come out of my loss. After I sell my house and clean up the mess, I will begin designing a “Suicide Victim's Advocate” program. In our state, every county has a Victim's Rights Advocate-that person is the liaison between the victim and the prosecutor's office.

In my case, there is no one person that I can call and ask about evidence or the investigation. I have to bother the police when they are doing things way more important than answering my questions. I propose that suicides’ families are victims, and therefore should be provided with the same assistance as a crime victim. This person would liaise between the police and the survivors.

No one has dared asked me how I can still put on my gun every time I head out the door, and keep it close when at home. Well, sillies! The gun didn't do it, the owner did. If he hadn't a gun, he would have used another method. I choose to help myself by helping others, not taking away their freedoms. So, there it is. Again, guns do not kill people, people kill people. Oh, and a little off-topic, but pertinent. If you haven't already, please talk with your loved ones about the Gift of Life donation. My husband was able to help 2 people live, just with his organs. I haven't heard yet from the Eye bank, but I really hope his sparkling green eyes are showing the world to some sweet little kid!

16 posted on 10/06/2014 11:12:14 AM PDT by blu
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waiting for hard evidence the shooting would not have occurred solely b/c this ‘loophole’ didn’t exist.......

why don’t they wish their loved ones would have been armed so they could have had a fighting chance against a criminal?


22 posted on 10/06/2014 11:23:07 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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With they’d quit confusing those who choose to harm others, with those who choose not to save to stop the former from doing so. Some people truly cannot tell the difference.


23 posted on 10/06/2014 11:23:10 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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25 posted on 10/06/2014 11:27:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Your pain and anguish do not trump the Bill of Rights.


26 posted on 10/06/2014 11:30:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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“Yet another out of stater pleading with the citizens of WA to further infringe on their rights.”

I am so sick of these carpetbaggers coming into my state and telling us what’s best for us. Washington State has perfectly reasonable gun laws (well, you need to get a permit to carry concealed but its ‘shall issue’) and we don’t need any east coast liberal buttinskis messing things up. Nor do we need our own resident billionaires - Gates, Allen, and their ilk - who live in iron-gated estates with armed guards making our decisions for us.

I have “Yes on 591” and “No on 594” signs all over my fence. The gnarly old democrat who lives next door to me is probably hiding under her bed. For those of you who don’t live in WA, Initiative 591 keeps our old laws in tact and actually improves upon them.


32 posted on 10/06/2014 11:34:24 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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I want a firearm for one simple reason.ONE REASON! And that’s because leftists like this clown,as well as the leftists running the Rat Party,don’t want me to have one.


34 posted on 10/06/2014 11:55:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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I chose not to read this article, but if it contains anything than an expansion of gun-carrying privileges to protect citizens, then it is nothing but garbage.


35 posted on 10/06/2014 11:57:39 AM PDT by bestintxas (Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings)
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Response to "Richard Martinez"

Sorry for the loss of your son, BUT your loss doesn't give you the right to demand that my rights be trampled to distract you from your sorrow. In fact it's fools like you who made the 2nd amendment necessary in 1791, and equally necessary today.

I'm sorry you've decided to be a cowardly whiner, who rather than blaming the CRIMINAL, blames an inanimate object. Suppose I hit you over the head with a rock. Is it the rock's fault? Suppose I stabbed you. would it be the knife's fault? No obviously not, but morons like you blame the gun. Oh, and by sticking your nose into the arena of gun control, you don't get a free pass simply because you son was killed. You are a fool and anyone who agrees with you is also a fool.

37 posted on 10/06/2014 12:02:03 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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where is the guest editorial with “I used my gun to save my family, vote NO.”

This publisher must be smoking too much weed.


38 posted on 10/06/2014 12:15:04 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I remember this guy. Immediately after the shooting, he hit the stump spewing his anti-Second Amendment BS. He started his 15 minutes almost immediately. Barry’s state run “media” loved him.


39 posted on 10/06/2014 12:21:01 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Got Ebola? Come to America!)
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