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Why Is The Middle East Failing? Because There Are Too Many Young Men, And No Women
Forbes ^ | September 26, 2014 | Roger Scruton

Posted on 09/27/2014 8:57:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Events in Afghanistan and the Middle East have awakened the Western world to the existence of an existential threat. We are not confronting a specific grievance that could be remedied by negotiation. We are not faced simply with rogue regimes and insurgent groups that can be dealt with through sanctions and reciprocal menaces. The threat is rooted in biological and cultural conditions that we cannot change by politics, and which have in any case pushed politics aside.

The Middle East is, as we are discovering, not one thing: on the contrary, it is a patchwork of communities whose peaceful coexistence depended on conditions that no longer exist. And many of those communities are in the habit of producing the two greatest scourges of the human race: young men without women, and puritanical rage. These same scourges have visited Afghanistan and North Africa, and they lie dormant throughout the Islamic world.

It is true that in Turkey and large parts of the Levant women have obtained a kind of social equality with men: but it is a precarious equality. Thanks to Atatürk polygamy was abolished in Turkey and women were encouraged to enter public life. Their status as the unspeakable ‘secret’ was removed, their faces were revealed, their soothing presence was everywhere perceivable. Thanks also to Atatürk the other great solvent of social tension – alcohol – was permitted and, while drunkenness is rightly viewed with anger all across the Middle East, the example of Turkey has helped many of those ancient communities to let their hair down and relax together over a bottle.

Remove wine and women, however, and the tension quickly escalates.....

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: isis; islam; sharia; turkey
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To: sagar

and it’s done for two primary reasons.

first major, to keep fortunes in the family.

second lesser, lack of non-family choices.


41 posted on 09/27/2014 11:05:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That CAMNOT be settled by negotiation? The people are Forbes are just as dumb as the sorry ilk at Huffington Post.


42 posted on 09/28/2014 1:08:39 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: ogen hal
“Why would any woman who was not insane want to live in the middle east?”

Well, if that's a true statement, why were all of the “Muslim Women” out uvulating right after the 911 disaster? Muslim women are simple automatons whose sole function is to reproduce and do whatever else they are told to do by their male masters.I feel sorry for them because this vile cult dehumanizes women and abuses them in the name of its god. If the world wanted to really solve the "muslim problem," it would take steps to remove the one thing it needs for it's survival, all of it's women.

43 posted on 09/28/2014 1:40:05 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; All

“Because there are too many muslims.”

BUMP!

Music to read this thread by...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg

Thanks to all posters.


44 posted on 09/28/2014 3:09:01 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Goats and young boys


45 posted on 09/28/2014 3:37:47 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait a minute! If there are no women, were do the men come from? Do men hatch from goat or camal eggs, after daddy has his way?


46 posted on 09/28/2014 4:12:09 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: caww

Mohammedans believe that allah determines everything down to the subatomic level, therefore only authoritarian rule is acceptable - any variations creates inherent instability - see Iraq, Turkey, etc.

Christian/Western values such as ‘fair play’, personal freedom, human rights, scientific discovery, man-made laws. etc are anathema to Islam.

Sharia law is based on the premises that allah is absolute, all crimes and punishments are defined from the 7th century koran - as written down 200 years later.


47 posted on 09/28/2014 4:26:10 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
" Of course, no such thing is authorised by their faith, and those Muslims who condemn the atrocities that we are witnessing will be the first to point out that the murder of the innocent is as much forbidden to a Muslim as it is to anyone else."

Where does Scuton get stuff like this? The Koran tells Muslims 91 times to imitate Muhammad, and Muhammad killed the innocent with impunity.

Of course, it depends what you mean by innocent. No kuffar is innocent.

48 posted on 09/28/2014 4:31:50 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: Dallas59
Inbreeding...Islam....Case closed.

Yep. Its just that simple.

49 posted on 09/28/2014 4:37:10 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

China will also more and more trouble the world for the same reason, an excess of young men with no prospect of wives. Such cause internal upheaval or are expended in foreign war. There will be war with China. China has a lot of unattachable young men to kill off and can perhaps gain some territory and foreign spoils in the process.


50 posted on 09/28/2014 4:46:50 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Middle East needs strip clubs!


51 posted on 09/28/2014 4:51:48 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: allendale
They are ultimately NOT doomed to fail. If America and Europe do not take the bull by the horns and expel their resident Moslems and take steps to deny Moslem societies the resources necessary to wage Jihad, then the Islamic project will succeed in the manner that it has succeeded in waves over the last 1400 years. Jihad may well burn itself out for a time but only after many gains have been made and the territorial base is even larger and the next expansion will explode out of that enlarged base.

Islam will either be pushed back and the territory under its control shrunk or it will expand. In its explosive phase,there is no stasis for Islam. We are experiencing that explosive phase now.

52 posted on 09/28/2014 4:53:43 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Churchill’s comments also applies to leftism...although islam is another brand of leftism.


53 posted on 09/28/2014 4:55:57 AM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: allendale
For the past one hundred years Islamic culture has been forced to confront modernity...Eventually Islamic culture will transform because it must or it will perish

You realize that yours is a formula for perpetual war, with absolutely zero assurance that we will be victorious, don't you?

Why should Islam not be contained, to eat of its own poisoned fruit? You are correct, the Islamic nations have been FORCED to confront modernity. This is the same modernity that is causing Western states to commit suicide. And they don't like it.

Our first few tries at using the sons of modernity to conquer have not been successful. And our forces are weaker now than at any time in the past seventy years.

It's awfully bold of you to raise the flag of dying modernism ahead of a, you should pardon the word, crusade, to transform these people and their culture.

Why not kick them out, send them home, close their airports and their sea lanes, and let them have all the Islam they want?

54 posted on 09/28/2014 4:56:34 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: PGR88

Make that two thirds & you got a deal!

Seriously, what else is it going to take? Inbred mental savages gorged on adrenalin-laced meat & being foaled by the hundreds of thousands, that doesn’t make it look good for the cause of world peace.


55 posted on 09/28/2014 5:07:11 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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56 posted on 09/28/2014 5:14:05 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The premise of this article is unsupported by the fact that radicalization is still happening in the West.

It clearly fails to explain why the Western Muslim is running off to join the jihad in yet uncounted numbers. We truly have no idea how many have been radicalized. And this is not just the young men running off, but also the women going to become jihadi brides.

Second we have no idea how many within the walls of the mosque are themselves radicals waiting for the demons to move them to action as we saw just this past week. This violence is not about a lack of women or unfulfilled sexual desires as clearly the Western Muslim could have his free choice of and access to women of all types.

My opinion on this article is it is written for the Western mind, the liberal mind. It attempts to justify the violence as a rage unfulfilled. Lack of women and alcohol...hmmmm gee, the Amish are not violent like this, nor does it explain the rape gangs of Sweden, Britain, or Australia.

No, the article puts forth a very naïve point of view and that in and of itself is dangerous to Western Civilization, for the threat is not found in a lack of women in the Middle East. It is found in the teachings of Islam.


57 posted on 09/28/2014 5:15:09 AM PDT by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IBTZ......... this piece is not Free Republic Dogma. It suggests that islam is not monilithic


58 posted on 09/28/2014 5:18:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If, and that is a big “if”, Islam is truly a religion of peace, then the imams in every mosque need to be evaluated for their sermons. Because, if it is a religion of peace, as they publicly claim, then the imams promoting jihad are false teachers. Right? Where is the call from Obama to cast out these false teachers? There isn’t any because we know that the Koran is a call to Jihad. PERIOD. Why, also, the fervent search for prostitution among the young women so they can be stoned to death, beheaded, buried alive, etc.? Surely these young men have to understand the results, and surely these people should know their own sisters and daughters well enough to stand up for them and demand they receive a fair trial before their execution, but once again, that would be NO! The ideology of a purging religion is just that. Purge every possible sinful act...but whatever happened to “thou shalt not murder’? In Islam there is no dignity of the individual, but there is a BLIND adherence to the imam’s interpretation of the Koran. So, we have what we have today. The right to kill without a trial, or proof; the right to call someone an infidel without giving them a chance to vindicate themselves, etc. Just remember that when they get Sharia law here in the US, we’ll all be considered infidels.


59 posted on 09/28/2014 5:47:48 AM PDT by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: bert

Maybe they should encourage gay marriage.


60 posted on 09/28/2014 5:48:11 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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