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Beavercreek Walmart surveillance tape shows shooting, 9-1-1 call (video)
Cleveland.com ^ | Sep 24, 2014 | Jeremy Pelzer

Posted on 09/24/2014 8:17:16 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy

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To: Moonman62
He then got up and moved toward the gun and the one police officer,

It appears to me that after being shot by officer 1 Crawford dropped the gun and went back behind the endcap over to the isle on the left to get away from getting shot again. Crawford then saw cop 2 coming up the left isle getting ready to shoot so Crawford runs back in the direction of where he had dropped the gun. Even though Crawford did not reach for anything cop 1 appears to shot again an finish him off. IMO very poor police work and at a minimum manslaughter by the cops.

201 posted on 09/25/2014 11:50:38 AM PDT by suijuris
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To: caww

No, that isn’t it, you keep making up things, and when Ritchie did claim it was happening, and we (including you) can clearly see it wasn’t, it wasn’t happening, Ritchie recanted his false claim.

“In an interview with the U.K. newspaper The Guardian, Ritchie says DeWine’s office showed him the video of Crawford’s killing, and he recants his claim during the 911 call and to reporters after the incident that Crawford was threatening other customers.”

“One month later, Ritchie puts it differently. “At no point did he shoulder the rifle and point it at somebody,” the 24-year-old said, in an interview with the Guardian.”


202 posted on 09/25/2014 11:51:08 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Is this true, or accurate?

“The Crawford family’s attorneys contend that Ohio’s “open-carry” law means that he could have been legally holding the rifle in the store even if it had been a full-powered firearm. “We never saw him waving this rifle in front of kids or people,” said his father.”


203 posted on 09/25/2014 11:55:07 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: MaxMax

I’m sorry. Due to an unusually high volume of trollish posts on FR, I am not able to respond immediately.

To aid me in posting a contextual response, please indicate your motivation for trolling:

A. You are a boot licking statist.
B. You are a Stormfront groupie
C. Both A and B.


204 posted on 09/25/2014 12:47:12 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: ansel12

The irony is that the 911 caller expressed so much concern for the woman in the aisle with the kids.

Yet, according to other websites out there, that’s the woman who collapsed and died after police opened fire.

So, the woman and her children had more to fear from the 911 caller than the guy shopping with the air rifle.

This is just one of those stories that makes you think about all the things that could go wrong in an otherwise normal day.


205 posted on 09/25/2014 12:54:22 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: MaxMax
FYI another video: Take a look at this video ‘showing him picking’ up the gun from the start....suspicious certainly IMO....what was he up to and the whole time he's on the phone...

We need the phone conversation and what was being said....

206 posted on 09/25/2014 1:05:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Video from the start...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XYNOTUWfHE


207 posted on 09/25/2014 1:06:42 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Note the guy didn’t “Shop” for the gun...he went right for it and then moved to the secluded aisle without blinking....


208 posted on 09/25/2014 1:10:14 PM PDT by caww
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To: Tired of Taxes
Doubts cast on witness's account of black man killed by police in Walmart
209 posted on 09/25/2014 1:16:25 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: Jarhead9297

Take a look at 207 post....another video showing him going directly for where the gun was and picking it up...

...all the while in contact with someone on the phone...further once he has it in hand he’s off right away to the secluded area.....

This was no “Shopper” nor kid playing with a gun....there’s a whole lot more to this which would be interesting to have the phone conversation...


210 posted on 09/25/2014 1:18:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

You have a vivid imagination. Are you afraid of monsters under your bed, too?


211 posted on 09/25/2014 1:22:33 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: Jarhead9297
The MK-177 gun comes boxed...this is the gun he had....


212 posted on 09/25/2014 1:26:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jarhead9297
The MK-177 gun comes boxed...this is the gun he had....


213 posted on 09/25/2014 1:26:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
Nah...just history in retail...Wal-Mart shooting....


214 posted on 09/25/2014 1:33:49 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

We should outlaw Wal-Mart then.


215 posted on 09/25/2014 1:36:29 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: caww
Kidnapped child at Wal-Mart


216 posted on 09/25/2014 1:48:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

You’ve of course missed my point...might be good to go back thread and stay with topic.


217 posted on 09/25/2014 1:49:57 PM PDT by caww
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To: MaxMax
...."Relatives of John Crawford, the man shot dead by police at a Beavercreek Walmart, say they’ve contacted civil rights organizations" ....

Mother of Crawford


218 posted on 09/25/2014 1:55:14 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jonty30

Ummm, swinging a gun around in a store IS a threat. Was the guy retarded? Mental problems? Think back on your own life Jonty30 - have you EVER been in a store with some guy swinging a gun around? EVER? Me either...

Swinging guns around in public is not how sane people act. You know that... Police have to take into account. If they didn’t there would be a lot more murders in the country.


219 posted on 09/25/2014 1:56:09 PM PDT by GOPJ ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants" - Albert Camus)
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To: ohioman

Arrest Report

Name: John H Crawford
Detention Date: August 20th, 2013
Location:
Hamilton County, OH
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Date of Birth: 7/29/1992
Race: B
Charges: 013/CRA/23293A 8/30/2013 2923-03 - COMPLICITY NO 10% $150,000.00 COMPLICITY $0.00 COMPLICITY TO AGG ROB
013/CRA/23293B 8/30/2013 2923-12 - CARRING CONCEALED WEAPONM1F3F2 10% $10,000.00 CARRING CONCEALED WEAPONM1F3F2 $0.00
Previous Arrests: View Cri


220 posted on 09/25/2014 1:58:49 PM PDT by caww
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