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An Air Force Plane Slated For The Scrap Heap Is Now On The Front Lines Against ISIS (A-10, Warthog)
BI - International Business Times ^ | 9-23-2014 | Christopher Harress

Posted on 09/23/2014 1:00:09 PM PDT by blam

Christopher Harress, International Business Times
September 23, 2014

A-10 Warthog in Afghanistan upload.wikimedia.org

As the U.S. begins bombing ISIS targets in Syria with a campaign of airstrikes that started Monday, a venerable airplane that was almost sent to the scrapyard joins the fight. The Pentagon will send a dozen A-10 Thunderbolt aircraft and up to 300 airmen to the Middle East in early October, to help in the conflict against the Islamic State group, the Indiana National Guard said.

The deployment of the 40-year-old aircraft comes just four months after it was controversially saved from defense cuts by Congress, whose rationale for saving it was simple: Cutting it would lead to the deaths of U.S. servicemen on the ground.

Built originally by now-defunct Fairchild to destroy Soviet tanks in Europe, the A-10 survived the end of the Cold War thanks to its ability to fly low, carry lots of bombs and a large cannon, and help troops with close air support, which made it often invaluable in Afghanistan. But with defense cuts looming and the Afghan war winding down, the Thunderbolt seemed on the way out.

The aircraft, while favored by some Air Force top brass, was slated to be cut from the defense budget in early May, with potential savings of about $4 billion over a five-year period. The more than 300 A-10s in service would have been grounded.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: a10; airforce; airplanes; warthog
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To: Hulka
How’d that picking targets at the White House work for president Johnson?

Better than it did for the troops.

141 posted on 09/23/2014 3:34:04 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: huldah1776

Just wondering since I still use a 5 year old tracfone.


Me, too. It’s good enough for me.


142 posted on 09/23/2014 3:34:25 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: infool7

If you mean shots were fired at the bathtub, yes, and the windscreen, yes. But these pieces were not on an assembled jet.


143 posted on 09/23/2014 3:35:55 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: tacticalogic

Yeah. . .and obama is using Johnson’s meddling as a guide to the “proper” application of military force.


144 posted on 09/23/2014 3:37:03 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Awww - you interrupted the cheese-eating and bread-slicing - how gauche!! One of our new LTs, a USMA grad and French-speaker, was sent as an exchange officer for a short while to a French tactical missile unit (PLUTON) that was similar to our unit (LANCE). He came back with some interesting stories about meals.


145 posted on 09/23/2014 3:40:31 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Moonman62

It’s the companies that need the money and it’s the politicians who need the funding from the companies. Is that considered capitalism?


146 posted on 09/23/2014 3:46:33 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Hulka
I can go on. . .

Please do, I'm sitting here laughing.

147 posted on 09/23/2014 3:50:33 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Hulka

Oh, dang all this time I thought they fired live rounds at it while a live test pilot flew the plane. Apparently we didn’t need to do that ourselves since our enemies (foolish enough as it may seem) are lining up to do it themselves. The A-10 has never the less proven itself dauntless in battle


148 posted on 09/23/2014 3:59:07 PM PDT by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: blam

Was stationed at Davis Monthan AFB in 75 when this beautiful perfect killing machine was unleashed ! Perfection personified imo an experience .

Great airplane. Magical when combined with a tactical air control party (TACP) on the ground in contact with the enemy.....


149 posted on 09/23/2014 4:03:20 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Hulka
Sorry I disagree .. experience with flying the ground attack mission with an aircraft not designed for ground attack does not make it a purpose designed ground attack aircraft.

The USAF P47, the RAF Hawker Typhoon, and the US Navy and Marine F4U Corsair all excelled at ground attack during World War II but none were designed as ground attack.. all were designed as fighters and found a calling in the ground attack role.

In fact no version on the P47 was designed from the factory as ground attack.

The P47 D did double double duty as a fighter and fighter bomber..be close to todays swing Fighter concept

The later P47M for Europe was stripped down lighter version with higher power R2800C engine pure fighter version they will pull off the bomb racks.. The P47N had extended wings for internal wing fuel tanks and extended range.. it was used in the Pacific at the forward island bases to reach Japan

There was a post war ground attack version of the Corsair the F4U6 / AU1...

But again none were designed from the start as a ground attack aircraft ...There's even a ground attack version of the F15. ..the F15E ...But no one ever say the F 15 was a ground attack aircraft only

The A10 was designed as a ground attack aircraft only from the start.. and one would ever confuse it with being a fighter aircraft

150 posted on 09/23/2014 4:16:03 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: McGruff
Thank G-d the Wart hangs on.

I'd love to Michelle Bachmann float a bill to sell the entire fleet of these to the Israeli's for One Dollar and see who would oppose it to wake up these dunderheads in Congress.

The Israeli's would come up with new Drawings ( CAD ) and go from their with CAM. I see no problem with the manufacturing technologies available today to literally make parts as needed from Math Models.

Can you imagine the magic the Israeli's would perform on this bird like the did the F4 Phantom?

Engine upgrade competition for a Geared Fan with lower TSFC and noise and more thrust works for me as well.

151 posted on 09/23/2014 4:34:41 PM PDT by taildragger (Not my Circus, Not my Monkey ( Boy does that apply to DC...))
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To: blam

Curious... “The Pentagon will send a dozen A-10 Thunderbolt aircraft and up to 300 airmen to the Middle East in early October, to help in the conflict against the Islamic State group, the Indiana National Guard said. “

Will they be flown all the way from Indiana to the ME or do they get them there by ship?


152 posted on 09/23/2014 4:56:26 PM PDT by LaMudBug
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To: LaMudBug

They’ll fly them...tanker and transport aircraft will be in the mix as well.


153 posted on 09/23/2014 4:58:21 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Hulka

Here’s another story about flying low and slow:

http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/speed-is-life.html


154 posted on 09/23/2014 5:53:59 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Hulka

Thanks x 2.


155 posted on 09/23/2014 6:20:41 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: taildragger

Can 3-D printers make parts?


156 posted on 09/23/2014 6:48:45 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: LaMudBug

whatever happened to OPSEC? why do we know who is going there when we know that we have enemies in our land?


157 posted on 09/23/2014 6:50:47 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: T-Bird45

How about, ‘Mothballed’...


158 posted on 09/23/2014 6:59:50 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Heck, you give that plane to the Marines and we don’t need the other branches...


159 posted on 09/23/2014 7:01:26 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: blam

The Air Staff must be shit@@@@ bricks, again.

A little history is in order.

In the late 1980’s the Air Staff was directed to use the A-10 funding line to help start funding the F-22 program. Then DESERT SHIELD/DESERT STORM erupted on the world stage. Things got very interesting in August 1990 as the serving AF/CC, General Michael J. Dugan, tried to push the F-16C as the only ground attack aircraft available to support Gen Norman Schwarzkopf’s efforts; Gen Schwarzkopf wanted A-10s. Gen Dugan was relieved of duty about a month later serving on 78 days as AF/CC. That was the shortest tour of duty as AF/CC by a wide margin.

A decade later, the AF Staff tried again this time to fund the F-35 program. Then September 11, 2001 happened.

The 13 years, the Air Staff tried again - any need to repeat today’s headlines?

Bottom line - like it or not, the A-10’s Statement of Work lead to the development of the world’s premier ground attack jet. And, until the AF develops a replacement with the same abilities, the Air Staff is going to be repeatedly frustrated as they push light fighters as a suitable substitute.


160 posted on 09/23/2014 7:34:04 PM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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