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Kentucky: Firefighter hurt in ice bucket challenge dies
Press Democrat ^ | September 20, 2014

Posted on 09/20/2014 11:33:53 AM PDT by rey

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To: PieterCasparzen

you probably don’t believe in Santa, either.

Alec Baldwin used to have a charity organization. His mom and sister were on the board and made $350K a year.


41 posted on 09/20/2014 12:13:28 PM PDT by rey
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To: dennisw
How do legitimate firefighters get their cherry picker too close to a power line? 

Someone forgot to have an "awareness" campaign regarding overhead power lines!

42 posted on 09/20/2014 12:15:08 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: The KG9 Kid

Actually, the ice bucket would work for rabies awareness as rabies is also defined as hydrophobia. If someone has rabies yo likely couldn’t get the water on them. After that you could have some beer.


43 posted on 09/20/2014 12:15:38 PM PDT by rey
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To: discostu

Oh? Really? So where are the ribbons and reusable bags and stuff? Where’s the advert’s? What color is the theme? Has 0bama mentioned it? My grandad just went through chemo on it is why I’m questioning. Nary a peep.


44 posted on 09/20/2014 12:15:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: ansel12

The ice bucket challenge is an “awareness campaign”.

I was discussing “So-called awareness campaigns are propaganda” and also the financial motivations for the campaigns.

Awareness campaigns are NOT what they purport to be.

They are a) tax dodges and and the same time b) designed to benefit the entities behind the campaign by furthering their agendas.


45 posted on 09/20/2014 12:17:25 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: rey

Who came up with such a stupid idea anyway?

Anyone that does it is also an idiot.


46 posted on 09/20/2014 12:19:42 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: rey

The ice bucket challenge was an extremely effective fundraising mechanism. With as many worthy causes as there are, it’s very difficult to raise funds for research. “You gotta have a gimmick!” This gimmick spelled the difference between @ $40M and $100M.

Just because it’s genetic, and just because today there’s no cure, doesn’t mean that with proper research funding there won’t be a cure for ALS in the future. Cynicism never cured a thing.


47 posted on 09/20/2014 12:27:23 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: rey

>>What the campaign raised was the rate of people behaving foolishly while somehow justifying it in their minds. And sorry, but I am highly skeptical of the many millions raised by cancer, heart disease and ALS reasearch, to name a few. That’s nice they got their money, but count me out.<<

So you say that this “foolishness” did NOT raise 100 million (vs. 2 million the same period last year) to combat Lou Gherig’s disease?

Or are you saying the money doesn’t go to the cause?


48 posted on 09/20/2014 12:27:46 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: PieterCasparzen

This is a fireman story, and that is what I posted about.


49 posted on 09/20/2014 12:29:19 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: SkyDancer

It’s light blue, and they’re out there. And yes obama mentioned it ( http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/08/29/presidential-proclamation-national-prostate-cancer-awareness-month-2014 ). It’s not as “popular” as others. But that’s always the case, there’s always some disease which is hitting all the PR stunts, and most of the rest that aren’t. If you’re over 30 you should remember when muscular dystrophy was HUGE and the Jerry Lewis Telethon sucked all the charity out of the room. Now a days most folks don’t even realize that the telethon even still happens. Susan Komen is starting to overstay their welcome, the breast cancer thing has been losing steam, NFL even announced they’ll be push camouflage as part of the Joetober (injured vets) drive instead of pink next month.

The fact is every single month, day, and week, is some sort of “national” blah blah blah. Actually usually a half a dozen for each. For most it’s so anonymous you need to be tied to it (or do some googling) to know. September is also blood cancer month, brain aneurysm month, child cancer month, deaf month, food safety month, guide dog month, hydrocephalus month, hystiocytosis month and a few others I didn’t find interesting. And this is probably the first you heard of any of them. But one of these day Arnold Chiari Malformation is going to be kind of the heap and whatever color their ribbon is will be all over the grocery stores on September... but don’t hold your breath on that one, they don’t even have a wiki page so it’ll be a while. But their day is coming.


50 posted on 09/20/2014 12:29:38 PM PDT by discostu (We don't leave the ladies crying cause the story's sad.)
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To: EDINVA; rey
Cynicism never cured a thing.

Prostate against cynicism!

51 posted on 09/20/2014 12:30:52 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: freedumb2003

Yes. It is foolishness. Think about this; the fund raising for these organizations is being conducted by people who take P.T. Barnum adages to heart:

“Nobody ever lost money underestimating the tastes of the American public.”

“There’s a sucker born every minute.”

They believe that by entertaining us with such foolishness that we may be parted from our money. Am I to entrust my money to people who engage in such chicanery? Perhaps another Barnum quote; “Clowns are the peg upon which the circus is hung.” I do not entrust my money to clowns. I am not wrong to at least suspect that they might be running a circus.

Please note the other post here about how these organizations function http://www.freerepublic.com/~pietercasparzen/


52 posted on 09/20/2014 12:40:32 PM PDT by rey
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To: rey
Who? Who does not want a TV?!

LOL! There's plenty of other things to do in life besides watch TV. No need to explain yourelf. If you wanted to see something, there are many online avenues to watch a favorite show or a movie.

53 posted on 09/20/2014 12:45:09 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: discostu

There was a story a couple months ago in our local paper about charities complaining about the Color Runs, where people run through colored corn starch during a 5k, for just the heck of it. The charities complained that the color runs got more participants than their particular 5ks to raise “awareness” and money. They also complained that the color runs were not raising awareness for anything, they were just a for-profit venture. They stopped short of asking the color runs to be banned though, which I thought was very kind of them.


54 posted on 09/20/2014 12:52:52 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rey

>>Yes. It is foolishness. <<

That was not the question I asked.

Once again, reading is FUNdamental.


55 posted on 09/20/2014 12:54:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: SkyDancer

In California they have a Prostate month, thought it was November, all the Men involved in it grow a mustache.


56 posted on 09/20/2014 12:54:52 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: rabidralph

Probably the most important thing not having a TV does (I do watch some DVDs) is it causes you to view the world differently than everyone who watches and it is so fun to see things differently.

I am the same way with the smart phones. I recently read in the WSJ something to the effect that I have this device the puts all the world’s knowledge at my finger tips, I use it to look at videos of cats and to argue with strangers. An hour a day on the internet is my vice. That and chocolate milkshakes.


57 posted on 09/20/2014 12:56:52 PM PDT by rey
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To: rabidralph

Those color runs look like fun, but messy. I know folks who do them. Everybody is chasing dollars, charities just as much as everybody else. There’s only so much money and “needs” for many times more than there is.


58 posted on 09/20/2014 12:57:42 PM PDT by discostu (We don't leave the ladies crying cause the story's sad.)
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To: freedumb2003

Please refrain from insults. I can assure you that you are a mere amateur at such things.

You asked if the money was going to the cause? How can I know, I am not their accountant. My point was, if they engage in such theatrics it certainly raises my suspicions. They raised a lot of money? How much did they spend on this campaign? Think about it, the largest organizations raise hundreds of millions a year, billions over many years. I am not saying they are not searching for a cure, but they certainly spend it on other things. I personally know someone who runs a scholarship fund who makes a near middle six digit income off of it. Things are not as altruistic as the seem. In fact, I do not believe there is such a thing as altruism.


59 posted on 09/20/2014 1:03:53 PM PDT by rey
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To: rey

>>Please refrain from insults. I can assure you that you are a mere amateur at such things.<<

LOL

>>You asked if the money was going to the cause? How can I know, I am not their accountant. <<

So yo skip my first question and punt my second question.

Your position has no basis other than a general “I don’t like this even if it did good.” It isn’t immoral, improper nor illegal. It did a world of good.

You are quite the elitist — from Europe maybe? It must be tough to be on your platform shoes looking down your nose at all the people who together raised so much money for such a worthy cause.

You will get nosebleeds up on that high horse.


60 posted on 09/20/2014 1:08:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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