Scotland will face 'painful divorce', says David Cameron in emotional speech

theguardian.com ^ | 15 September 2014 | Nicholas Watt

[Berlin_Freeper]

"If you don't like me – I won't be here forever. If you don't like this government – it won't last forever. But if you leave the UK – that will be forever."

[Berlin_Freeper]

▶ Sky News Scotland Megamix - YouTube

[golux]

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[CodeToad]

“But if you leave the UK – that will be forever.””

Nothing like a liberal drama queen.

Scotland was independent before, so what of anyone that may have said then, “Well, once you join the UK, it is forever!”?

[Berlin_Freeper]

Cameron, his voice at times faltering with emotion,
"Lets stick together".
"Head and heart and soul, we want you to stay."

"The next time he comes to Scotland it will not be to love-bomb or engage in desperate last-minute scaremongering," Salmond said in a statement. "It will be to engage in serious post-referendum talks."

[Jonty30]

I don’t know about a painful split, but K do know it will likely be a painful future.

[Tzimisce]

Even in death throes, the liberal elite are still smug and condescending.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Countries that gained independence from the British Empire...

... from Wiki

Country	Date	Year of Independence	Notes
Antigua and Barbuda	11-01 !1 November	1981
Australia	01-01 !1 January	1986	Australia Act 1986
Bahamas	07-10 !10 July	1973
Bahrain	12-16 !16 December	1971	15 August 1971
Barbados	11-30 !30 November	1966	Barbados Independence Act 1966
Belize	09-21 !21 September	1981	September Celebrations of Belize
Botswana	09-30 !30 September	1966
Brunei	01-01 !1 January	1984
Canada	07-01 !1 July	1982	Canada Act 1982
Cyprus	10-01 !1 October	1960	16 August 1960, but Cyprus Independence Day is commonly celebrated on 1 October.[1]
Dominica	11-03 !3 November	1978
Egypt	02-28 !28 February	1922
Fiji	10-10 !10 October	1970
The Gambia	02-18 !18 February	1965
Ghana	03-06 !6 March	1957
Grenada	02-07 !7 February	1974	Independence Day (Grenada)
Guyana	05-26 !26 May	1966
India	08-15 !15 August	1947
Israel	05-14 !14 May	1948
Iraq	10-3 !3 October	1932
Republic of Ireland	04-24 !24 April (Easter Monday)	1922	Proclamation of the Irish Republic commencing the Easter Rising on 24 April 1916 led to a civil war which resulted in the formation of the Irish Free State. Only country to ever secede from the United Kingdom proper.
Jamaica	08-06 !6 August	1962
Jordan	05-25 !25 May	1946
Kenya	12-12 !12 December	1963
Kiribati	12-7 !12 July	1979
Kuwait	06-26 !25 February	1961
Lesotho	10-04 !4 October	1966
Malawi	07-06 !6 July	1964
Malaysia	08-31 !31 August	1957	Hari Merdeka
Maldives	07-26 !26 July	1965
Malta	09-21 !21 September	1964
Mauritius	03-12 !12 March	1968
Myanmar	01-04 !4 January	1948
Nauru	01-31 !31 January	1968	Independence from the United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand on 31 January 1968.
New Zealand	04-18 !6 February	1986	Constitution Act 1986
Nigeria	10-01 !1 October	1960
Pakistan	08-14 !14 August	1947	Yaum e Azadi. Independence from the United Kingdom on 27 Ramadan ul Mubarik, 14 August 1947
Papua New Guinea	16-09 !16 September	1975	Independence gained from Australia the administering power.
Qatar	03-09 !3 September	1971	Qatar National Day
Saint Lucia	04-18 !22 February	1979
Samoa	01-01 !1 January	1962	Independence granted by New Zealand the administrative country.
Saint Kitts and Nevis	09-19 !19 September	1983
Seychelles	06-29 !29 June	1976
Sierra Leone	04-27 !27 April	1961
Solomon Islands	07-07 !7 July	1978
South Africa	12-11 !11 December	1961	1931 adoption of Statute of Westminster. Not a public holiday. Union of South Africa formed on 31 May 1910 and Republic declared on 31 May 1961 and left the British Commonwealth on the same day.
Sri Lanka	02-04 !4 February	1948	4 February 1948, Sri Lanka had their independence. After nearly 150 years of the UK ruling the country. Gained independence as the Dominion of Ceylon
Somaliland	26-06 !26 June	1960	Gained Independence as part of Somalia. Unrecognised independent state declared in 1991 during the crisis in Somalia covering the same territory as British Somaliland as the Republic of Somaliland.
Sudan	01-01 !1 January	1956	South Sudan gained independence from Sudan on 9 July 2011.
Swaziland	09-06 !6 September	1968
Tanzania	12-09 !9 December	1961
Trinidad and Tobago	08-31 !31 August	1962
Tuvalu	04-18 !1 October	1978
Uganda	04-18 !9 October	1962
United Arab Emirates	12-02 !2 December	1971	National Day (United Arab Emirates)
United States	07-04 !4 July	1776	Fourth of July. Declaration of Independence from the Kingdom of Great Britain in 1776
Vanuatu	07-30 !30 July	1980	Independence from United Kingdom and France in 1980
Yemen	11-30 !30 November	1967	South Yemen 1967
Zambia	10-24 !24 October	1964
Zimbabwe	04-18 !18 April	1980

[Berlin_Freeper]

British Prime Minister David Cameron, desperate to avoid going down in history as the leader who oversaw the breakup of the 307-year-old union

... Hinting at the high stakes, the Prime Minister’s speech was a tightly scripted appearance, with the location kept secret until shortly before he began addressing his invitation-only audience.

[Repeal 16-17]

Does this Cameron wants to go down the Lincoln route? A Second English Civil War?

[OldNewYork]

I had the same thought - what drama and emotionalism. As if the UK wouldn’t be trying to get Scotland back in, long, long after, should they go. We fought two wars of independence because this same people didn’t accept two decades of our going our own way. And we were separated by the Atlantic Ocean as well. I can’t see how this does much except help the Yes campaign.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

List of countries that have gained independence from the United Kingdom

Original link to info I posted above.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Maybe Cameron can grant the nobles prima nocte. First night, when any common girl inhabiting their lands is married, the nobles shall have sexual rights to her on the night of her wedding. If they can’t get them out, they'll breed them out.

"It is my Noble right!"

[rdcbn]

Socialism and Muslim immigration is destroying the UK

[C210N]

It’s not just any divorce....

It would be a divorce, but then still live together.

‘Yes’ voters want a half divorce.

[x]

Nothing like a liberal drama queen.

Kind of.

But for accuracy's sake, he is the leader of the Conservative Party over there.

[Opinionated Blowhard]

There are several good articles in the British press about what a complete, total, incompetent idiot David Cameron has been when it comes to this vote. He did nothing, missed all the warning signs that Scotland was going to vote yes, and then when it was obvious and perhaps too late, he went into a hysterical panic about what to do. Given how big this issue is, it really shows how incompetent he is. But if its any cold comfort to the Tories, Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband have been almost as bad.

[Berlin_Freeper]

The Prime Minister said the country had “only become Great Britain because of the greatness of Scotland”.

He said: “I speak for millions of people across England, Wales and Northern Ireland – and many in Scotland, too who would be utterly heartbroken by the break-up of the United Kingdom.

“Utterly heartbroken to wake up on Friday morning to the end of the country we love.”

[dragonblustar]

I hardly think shortbread and whiskey is going to be the basis of a strong economy.....

[Berlin_Freeper]

▶ David Cameron to Scottish people: It's not a trial separation, it's a painful divorce - YouTube

[Lurker]

“I hardly think shortbread and whiskey is going to be the basis of a strong economy.....”

North Sea oil certainly could be.