CDC Issues Ebola Checklist: 'Now is the time to prepare'

Washington Examiner ^ | September 15, 2014 | Paul Bedard

[scouter]

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warning hospitals and doctors that “now is the time to prepare,” has issued a six-page Ebola “checklist” to help healthcare workers quickly determine if patients are infected.

While the CDC does not believe that there are new cases of Ebola in the United States, the assumption in the checklist is that it is only a matter of time before the virus hits home.

[Old Sarge]

Okay, so the thing I got is an unconfirmed report out of Miami, listed HERE...

Halfway down in the Ebola update the following can be read:

9/8 - CDC reports possible Ebola-infected individual being treated at Miami area hospital. Further details withheld at this time. Developing situation...

It looks as though Ebola isn't the only thing they're trying to contain...

[DuncanWaring]

For most of human history, the life-expectancy was under 50 years.

[grumpygresh]

They rarely get the flu vaccines right and I doubt that CDC and big pharma will get Ebola right. All viruses mutate, but the difference, I believe with Ebola, is that the frequency of mutation greatly outstrips the means of researchers and manufacturers to create an effective vaccine for current needs.

[Cheerio]

paragraphs are your friend

[exDemMom]

There are a few differences between the influenza viruses and Ebola. For one thing, there are several influenza viruses circulating at any given time, and the experts who have to decide which viruses will be included in the vaccine are trying to guess several months in advance which of those viruses will be more common in the upcoming flu season. For another, flu viruses readily trade genes with each other, resulting in new viruses that no one could have even guessed.

There are only 5 Ebola viruses, and they cannot trade genes with each other to make new viruses. This Ebola outbreak is the Zaire strain—so the Zaire vaccines that have been under development for at least a decade will be effective. Ebola does not mutate any faster than any other RNA virus, and there is no reason to think that a vaccine against it would have to be changed yearly (like the flu vaccine).

[floriduh voter]

What a coincidence that more of Obamacare kicks in on Jan 1, 2015. Going to the waiting room will be like Russian roulette. Going to the doctor too. I already rarely go to the doctor. If Ebola is going to be everywhere, the worst place to go is to a doctor, a hospital or clinic. They already have MRSA problems.

Somebody wants us dead. Prepare to die, not prepare for any other reason. There is no cure.

[DoughtyOne]

The problem for many of us is the seeming need for some people to have some calamity or another to wring their hands over. They fixate on a topic until they not only drive everyone else up a wall, but they also work themselves up into a lather. Surely that doesn’t make them happy.

How many flu epidemics have been predicted and nothing happened. How many things like killer bees were going to attack us? AIDS itself was predicted to have over 90% of the populace infected by the end of the last century. Then there was the flesh eating disease.

If you mention this to these folks, they laugh at you as if you you’re the silly one.

No, I do prepare for survival. I just don’t look for another thing to obsess over every few months.

The world isn’t overheating. Man isn’t killing the planet. And we will survive the next big one.

Sorry. Those are just the facts.

Next year this time we’ll probably be laughing about this, another sure calamity, that didn’t happen.

Ah, but then there will be another bigger and better and more certain thing to worry about.

Count on it.

Yes folks, put in emergency supplies. There’s only so much you can do. Go about your life.

[null and void]

The game of Ebola Roulette continues...

*click* spin *click* spin *click* spin…

Eeeee-bolllll-aaaaaa ping!

Bring Out Your Dead

We’re gonna need

a bigger cart!

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

[bgill]

From your link - Thompson said Phoenix Air has flown 10 Ebola-related missions in the past six weeks... Thompson declined to say where patients who have just been exposed to Ebola have been flown to in the U.S. “They all go to a hospital and they monitor them,” he said. “If they do develop it, then they treat them

Ok, so there's been four confirmed patients but his company has made 6 flights. We don't know where the other two went or if they developed ebola. We also don't know if there are other companies contracted to do ebola flights to the US.

We do know that the government has ordered 160k tyvek suits from one company. Again, have they contracted with other companies? Connect the dots and it's not hard to realize where we are.

[bgill]

Do we know how long the virus is active on a dead body?

[bgill]

Ok, up thread states there’s another ebola patient in Miami. This may or may not be one of the ones Phoenix Air flew in. Interestingly, that case hasn’t been all over the news.

[Black Agnes]

An article posted to the surveillance thread indicated that the deceased’s body could be hot for several *months*.

[Shelayne]

This is what I read this weekend about that very thing, so I still have the link handy:

(Question)
How long does an infected corpse remain contagious?

(Answer)
A long time — although it’s still unknown exactly how long.

Remember, virus particles can last for days and even weeks in a drop of blood. So inside the entire body of the deceased patient, the virus can probably remain active for several months, Gonzalez says.

“That’s why it’s very important to [perform] the burial as soon as possible,” he adds. And to be extremely careful while doing it.

source: http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandsoda/2014/09/12/346114454/how-do-you-catch-ebola-by-air-sweat-or-water

[bgill]

Thanks for that info. As much as expected. Not good.

[bgill]

Not good. Not good at all, sigh.

[grey_whiskers]

Buy beef brisket cheap; or some grocery stores mark down beef by 30% or so a day before the "pull date".

You can easily slice the beef and marinate or salt it, then put the strips into the over with the door open partway, and the temperature set at 170 degrees F, for 4-6 hours and presto! Beef jerky. Keeps about two weeks; longer if frozen.

I'll even bet you can find recipes for salted beef which would keep indefinitely.

[Shelayne]

It was in the news in Miami. The person first tested negative and was released. Then they developed what looked like ebola symptoms a week later. The CDC retested the patient, and the second test also came back negative. I will try to find the link... Found it.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/09/08/miami-hospital-patients-tests-negative-for-ebola/

Assuming this is the same person. The dates match anyhow.

[bgill]

Alright.

[Shelayne]

Not to be a Debbie-downer, but I think you mean 10 flights... 6 more than the 4 confirmed patients.

Perhaps these are healthcare workers that are flown in and are monitored for 21 days...

And you are right, we don’t know if there are other companies contracted to do the same thing.

[Lazamataz]

There was a Miami suspicion case but it proved negative.