Posted on 09/11/2014 5:35:32 PM PDT by dayglored
SALT LAKE CITY — A Utah elementary school teacher who was carrying a concealed firearm at school was struck by fragments from a bullet and a porcelain toilet when her gun accidently fired in a faculty bathroom on Thursday, officials said.
The sixth-grade teacher at Westbrook Elementary School, in the Salt Lake City suburb of Taylorsville, was injured when the bullet struck a toilet and caused it to explode, Granite School District spokesman Ben Horsley said.
Authorities initially thought the teacher had accidently shot herself. They now believe she was injured when the bullet and toilet fragments struck her lower leg.
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Sounds like something for Mythbusters to test.
Highly likely, either the bullet or toilet fragments struck her leg, but not both. If she shot herself, there would not have been fragments. If she shot the toilet, then fragments. IOW, she shot the toilet, but not herself.
Recent similar case, involving an Uzi, sadly with a less favorable outcome.
Instinctive, stupid as it is. Thing is, when handling a firearm, there should be more thought than brute caveman instinct going on! “Unnngh, it push back, I push HARDER!” is fine for a wallet where the worst consequence is a ripped pocket or dropped wallet, but there should have been more attention here.
It’s a big responsibility folks, let’s act with care so we don’t give the gun grabbers even more rope to hang us with!
And the John won!
Quoth Dean Wormer:
“Who dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into the varsity swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the alumni dinner? Every Halloween, the trees are filled with underwear. Every spring, the toilets explode. “
My wife and I keep a round chambered. Her Taurus Slim has a safety while neither of my pocket/carry pieces do. The triggers have an extremely long pull and are almost impossible to "accidentally" discharge - you have to work at it. The guns are also almost impossible to discharge by dropping or other mishaps due to the design which keeps the firing pin spring at very low compression until the trigger is pulled - it tensions the firing pin and activates a cam which removes the gate blocking the firing pin before finally finishing the process.
Some weapons are better off without a chambered round - my 1911 for example due to the trigger being very short pull and the fact that the hammer remains back (who wants to de-cock a .45 and pray to not slip - would fire and probably take off the thumb as the action moved back).
Leaving the round unchambered can more than double the time that it takes to get a weapon ready and in position to be useful. I would hazard the woman was playing with her weapon while she sat on the pot and the "accident" was due to her not thinking - happens to many, even so-called professionals.
But she did not shoot the deputy.....
At that point you’re getting into a longer barrel than a DA revolver. That was my carry gun before the TBA. The home pistol, before the TBA, was a .40 cal. Beretta with a 5” barrel. The Beretta beats the pants off the Glock for safety because it has a external safety that disengages the entire firing system and, with the safety off, is DA on the first trigger pull and only SA on the second and subsequent pulls.
I don’t see glock paranoia at all. I see people talking about how inferior they are and that there are far better choices to which I’d agree. I have extensive firearm use in all types, and I strongly dislike glocks for several reasons, the lack of manual safety not even high on the list.
I would never recommend anyone buying one. If one wants a good reliable pistol, I would recommend a kimber .45 though.
a 1911?
1911s are designed to be carried in a condition one capacity. They are meant to be carried with one in the chamber with the hammer fully cocked.
That’s why they have the handle grips. Any good 1911 will not go off unless the gun is in the hand and the trigger is pulled.
If it works for you, that’s great. I just never got used to the plastic feel, and I found the recoil wasn’t as absorbed up as it would be on a heavier gun. I also didn’t like the strip and assembly on those.
Sounds like it’s working like a champ for you though and at the end of the day, that’s what matters.
the gun fired, and the recoil forces spun it like a cartwheel, shooting until it was empty (14 shots). He was unhurt but I imagine he was quite impressed.
I’ll guarantee you that there is someone in the BATF who’d want to charge your pal with some kind of “full auto” violation.
Actually, a Springfield XD-M. Love it.
A co-worker, who was also a friend of mine was watching a prisoner at the hospital. (state Corrections) Anyway, he goes and uses the bathroom in the room. A little while later the prisoner says he has to go to the bathroom. The officer disconnects him from the bed, makes sure his leg shackles are secure, and walks him to the bathroom. the prisoner walks out, gets back into the bed and is rechained to the bed. Only after the prisoner is safely back in bed he turns and says “officer, by the way- you left your pistol in the bathroom”. Shortly after recovering from his heart attack, he goes in, retrieves his pistol and gives thanks to St. Anthony (the patron saint of lost things) profusely for the remainder of his shift. He told me about this only after having been retired for a while. Which was probably a good idea, in retrospect.
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Understood and not why I don't keep mine with a round chambered - I leave mine in a place for long periods so I can reach it, but not as a primary. I only keep 5 rounds in the magazine and leave it unchambered to preserve springs. It was manufactured in the Springfield Armory in 1914 so it gets special care. Still a solid weapon and fit for competition shooting. I keep my weapons in useful places and loaded - most with round chambered. The weapon is 100 years old and I trust it with my life - doesn't get much sweeter than that for a weapon.
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