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To: drypowder

Has anyone noticed the disconnect between the comments on threads of this type, and those on the Ferguson threads?

There seems to be a general assumption that the officer in Ferguson was fully justified in shooting Mr. Brown, who at least according to some accounts may have simply refused to obey a police order quickly enough.

I don’t know what really happened in Ferguson, and neither does anybody else posting to this forum. I just find it odd that the cases described above are taken as evidence that the cops are out of control, but the cop in Ferguson is given much more the benefit of the doubt.

I also sometimes wonder if the “police brutality” complained of by black people for decades, but generally dismissed by many of us, may just be moving out of the ghetto into Main Street.

IOW, might they have had a point all along?

My personal interactions with cops have been few, but with one exception very professional, even the one where they almost blew my head off by mistake.


8 posted on 09/10/2014 3:03:09 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan

There is no disconnect.

It boils down to black v. white. “Teens” v. you and me.

And when cops live day to day in a Ferguson type environment, they will naturally begin to react to you and me as they have with Trayvon and Michael.

No, we don’t like it. But the thug culture has infested itself into ALL aspects of America. Even into thug cops.

So yes. “Police brutality” has gone from the ghetto to Main St.


30 posted on 09/10/2014 3:56:53 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Sherman Logan

Re: “Has anyone noticed the disconnect between the comments on threads of this type, and those on the Ferguson threads?”

I will speculate the same people are not commenting on both threads.

I read these threads, but I don’t comment.

I’m not interested in endless, angry, pointless debates with Libertarians and their fellow travelers.

Like you, I have never had a serious problem with the Police.

I obey the law, I show deference and respect when they talk to me, I’ve never been arrested, never been cuffed, and have never seen the back seat of a Police car.

Staying out of legal trouble is the easiest thing I have ever done in my life.


33 posted on 09/10/2014 4:07:01 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Sherman Logan

Um, that is because we look at the facts (as best we know them) of each case and judge accordingly...


48 posted on 09/10/2014 5:16:26 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Sherman Logan
I also sometimes wonder if the “police brutality” complained of by black people for decades, but generally dismissed by many of us, may just be moving out of the ghetto into Main Street. IOW, might they have had a point all along?

You might be right.

Also the militarization of police is horrible. That Pentagon stuff should be given to the National Guard and only brought out if a Governor feels it's absolutely necessary. To routinely have police departments with war surplus is intimidating. Same with Homeland Security... having attack helicopters landing in American cities is thuggy... at best.

We can identify with the black community in some of this... What's your solution?

60 posted on 09/10/2014 7:18:10 PM PDT by GOPJ ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Sherman Logan
Has anyone noticed the disconnect between the comments on threads of this type, and those on the Ferguson threads? There seems to be a general assumption that the officer in Ferguson was fully justified in shooting Mr. Brown, who at least according to some accounts may have simply refused to obey a police order quickly enough. I don’t know what really happened in Ferguson, and neither does anybody else posting to this forum. I just find it odd that the cases described above are taken as evidence that the cops are out of control, but the cop in Ferguson is given much more the benefit of the doubt.

My issue with Furguson was that cops can not be trusted to investigation their own. They've proven it over and over again that there are no real investigations of a cop.

I also sometimes wonder if the “police brutality” complained of by black people for decades, but generally dismissed by many of us, may just be moving out of the ghetto into Main Street. IOW, might they have had a point all along?"

It was never about race, though blacks thought it was. It is about power over others, the drug of choice for cops. They were just the easiest victims.

My personal interactions with cops have been few, but with one exception very professional, even the one where they almost blew my head off by mistake.

Most of my encounters with cops, they had nothing but 'tude. Like I, an ordinary innocent person, wasn't worth the slightest respect at all by a public servant. I have yet to meet a cop who wasn't as arrogant as Lucifer telling God that He was in his seat.

61 posted on 09/10/2014 7:28:38 PM PDT by LevinFan
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