Posted on 09/10/2014 2:40:49 PM PDT by drypowder
Police are specialists in violence. They are armed, trained, and authorized to use force. With varying degrees of subtlety, this colors their every action. Like the possibility of arrest, the threat of violence is implicit in every police encounter. Violence, as well as the law, is what they represent.Kristian Williams, activist and author
If you dont want to get probed, poked, pinched, tasered, tackled, searched, seized, stripped, manhandled, arrested, shot, or killed, dont say, do or even suggest anything that even hints of noncompliance. This is the new thin blue line over which you must not cross in interactions with police if you want to walk away with your life and freedoms intact.
The following incidents and many more like them serve as chilling reminders that in the American police state, we the people are at the mercy of law enforcement officers who have almost absolute discretion to decide who is a threat, what constitutes resistance, and how harshly they can deal with the citizens they were appointed to serve and protect.
For example, police arrested Chaumtoli Huq because she failed to promptly comply when ordered to move along while waiting outside a Ruby Tuesdays restaurant for her children, who were inside with their father, using the bathroom. NYPD officers grabbed Huq, a lawyer with the New York City Public Advocates office, flipped her around, pressed her against a wall, handcuffed her, searched her purse, arrested her, and told her to shut up when she cried out for help, before detaining her for nine hours. Huq was charged with obstructing governmental administration, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.
Oregon resident Fred Marlow was jailed and charged with interfering and resisting arrest after he filmed a SWAT team raid that took place across the street from his apartment and uploaded the footage to the internet. The footage shows police officers threatening Marlow, who was awoken by the sounds of multiple bombs blasting and glass breaking and ran outside to investigate only to be threatened with arrest if he didnt follow orders and return inside.
Eric Garner, 43 years old, asthmatic and unarmed, died after being put in a chokehold by NYPD police, allegedly for resisting arrest over his selling untaxed, loose cigarettes, although video footage of the incident shows little resistance on Garners part. Indeed, the man was screaming, begging and insisting he couldnt breathe. And what was New York Mayor Bill De Blasios advice to citizens in order to avoid a similar fate? Dont resist arrest. (Mind you, the NYPD arrests more than 13,000 people every year on charges of resisting arrest, although only a small fraction of those charged ever get prosecuted.)
Then there was Marine Brandon Raub, who was questioned at his home by a swarm of DHS, FBI, Secret Service agents and local police, tackled to the ground, handcuffed, and forcibly transported to a police station. Raub was then detained against his will in a psychiatric ward, without being provided any explanation, having any charges levied against him or being read his rightsall allegedly because of controversial song lyrics and political views posted on his Facebook page.
Incredibly, police insisted that Raub was not in fact under arrest. Of course, Raub was under arrest. When your hands are handcuffed behind you, when armed policemen are tackling you to the ground and transporting you across town in the back of a police car, and then forcibly detaining you against your will, youre not free to walk away.
If you do attempt to walk away, be warned that the consequences will likely be even worse, as Tremaine McMillian learned the hard way. Miami-Dade police slammed the 14-year-old boy to the ground, putting him in a chokehold and handcuffing him after he allegedly gave them dehumanizing stares and walked away from them, which the officers found unacceptable. According to Miami-Dade Police Detective Alvaro Zabaleta, His body language was that he was stiffening up and pulling away When you have somebody resistant to them and pulling away and somebody clenching their fists and flailing their arms, thats a threat. Of course we have to neutralize the threat.
As I point out in my book A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State, this mindset that any challenge to police authority is a threat that needs to be neutralized is a dangerous one that is part of a greater nationwide trend that sets the police beyond the reach of the Fourth Amendment. Moreover, when police officers are allowed to operate under the assumption that their word is law and that there is no room for any form of disagreement or even question, that serves to chill the First Amendments assurances of free speech, free assembly and the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Frankly, it doesnt matter whether its a casual show your ID request on a boardwalk, a stop-and-frisk search on a city street, or a traffic stop for speeding or just to check your insurance: if you feel like you cant walk away from a police encounter of your own volitionand more often than not you cant, especially when youre being confronted by someone armed to the hilt with all manner of militarized weaponry and gearthen for all intents and purposes, youre under arrest from the moment a cop stops you.
That raises the question, what exactly constitutes resisting an arrest? What about those other trumped up contempt of cop charges such as interference, disorderly conduct, obstruction, and failure to obey a police order that get trotted out anytime a citizen engages in behavior the police perceive as disrespectful or insufficiently deferential to their authority? Do Americans really have any recourse at all when it comes to obeying an order from a police officer, even if its just to ask a question or assert ones rights, or should we just surrender quietly?
The short answer is that anything short of compliance will get you arrested and jailed. The long answer is a little more complicated, convoluted and full of legal jargon and dissonance among the courts, but the conclusion is still the same: anything short of compliance is being perceived as threatening behavior or resistance to be met by police with extreme force resulting in injury, arrest or death for the resistor.
The key word, of course, is comply meaning to obey, submit or conform. This is what author Kristian Williams describes as the dual myths of heroism and danger: The overblown image of police heroism, and the obsession with officer safety, do not only serve to justify police violence after the fact; by providing such justification, they legitimize violence, and thus make it more likely.
How else can we explain why police shot a schizophrenic 30-year-old man holding a pellet gun over 80 times before his corpse was handcuffed? Mind you, witnesses reportedly informed the police that it was not a real gun, but the officers nonetheless opened fire about five minutes after arriving on the scene.
John Crawford was shot by police in an Ohio Wal-Mart for holding an air rifle sold in the store that he may have intended to buy. Oscar Grant, age 23, unarmed and lying face-down on the ground, was shot in the back by a transit officer in Oakland, Calif., who mistakenly used a gun instead of a taser to further restrain him. Ordered to show his hands after anti-crime police officers noticed him adjusting his waistband in a manner the officers deemed suspicious, 16-year old Kimani Grey was fired at 11 times, and shot seven times, including three times in the back. Reportedly, the teenager was unarmed and unthreatening.
Even dogs arent spared if they are perceived as threatening. Family dogs are routinely shot and killed during SWAT team raids, even if the SWAT team is at the wrong address or the dog is in the next yard over. One six-year-old girl witnessed her dog Apollo shot dead by an Illinois police officer.
Clearly, when police officers cease to look and act like civil servants or peace officers but instead look and act like soldiers occupying a hostile territory, it alters their perception of we the people. Those who founded this country believed that we were the masters and that those whose salaries we pay with our hard-earned tax dollars are our servants.
If daring to question, challenge or even hesitate when a cop issues an order can get you charged with resisting arrest or disorderly conduct, youre not the master in a master-servant relationship. In fact, youre not even the servantyoure the slave.
This is not freedom. This is not even a life.
This is a battlefield, a war zoneif you willgoverned by martial law and disguised as a democracy. No matter how many ways you fancy it up with shopping malls, populist elections, and Monday night football, the fact remains that we the people are little more than prisoners in the American police state, and the police are our jailers and wardens.
Oh I do remember the threads on the dehumanizing stares assault.
But after all - if anyone deserves a beat-down by the po-leece, its someone who would give them .... dehumanizing stares.
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When police suspect every one is a danger, no one gives them respect and appreciation.
Its dangerous work but not every incident needs to be resolved with handcuffs and a billy club. Police officers who think people must be carted off to jail are a greater threat to society than the society they’re sworn to protect.
Police are supposed to protect life and freedom and not to deprive people of it unless they’re committed a crime that endangers others. But too many in police work have forgotten they’re servants rather than taskmasters with shields and clubs.
Piece of cr@p charge by the piece of cr@p cops.
But in our own communities, we know where they live...
AMEN!
They are revenue collectors now. It’s so obvious.
There’s way more money in catching granny with a radar gun going 6mph over the speed limit. Automatic cha-ching.
Has anyone noticed the disconnect between the comments on threads of this type, and those on the Ferguson threads?
There seems to be a general assumption that the officer in Ferguson was fully justified in shooting Mr. Brown, who at least according to some accounts may have simply refused to obey a police order quickly enough.
I don’t know what really happened in Ferguson, and neither does anybody else posting to this forum. I just find it odd that the cases described above are taken as evidence that the cops are out of control, but the cop in Ferguson is given much more the benefit of the doubt.
I also sometimes wonder if the “police brutality” complained of by black people for decades, but generally dismissed by many of us, may just be moving out of the ghetto into Main Street.
IOW, might they have had a point all along?
My personal interactions with cops have been few, but with one exception very professional, even the one where they almost blew my head off by mistake.
I can live without them. I encourage others to do the same.
Protect yourself, your and if necessary, join with your neighbors to protect the neighborhood.
It’s much easier to arrest and harass innocent White citizens. There are no marches and you don’t have to watch the fake “reverends” condemning you on national TV.
The arrest numbers go up just the same, and the cops don’t have to put up with the “civil rights” screaming.
This situation has been getting worse over the last 40 years or so. No one questions that police work is dangerous and necessary but the division between ordinary citizens and police has been deepening with no sign of ever improving.
I never disobey authority, I never break laws but every time I see the police I watch what they’re doing and stay clear of them - exactly as I would when I see a pack of “youths” or any other potentially dangerous situation. We have armed them like combat troops and they have migrated their tactics to placing their own security as their primary objective.
It’s a recipe for disaster when we need effective police more than ever before.
“For example, police arrested Chaumtoli Huq because she failed to promptly comply when ordered to move along while waiting outside a Ruby Tuesdays restaurant for her children, who were inside with their father, using the bathroom. NYPD officers grabbed Huq, a lawyer with the New York City Public Advocates office, flipped her around, pressed her against a wall, handcuffed her, searched her purse, arrested her, and told her to shut up when she cried out for help, before detaining her for nine hours. Huq was charged with obstructing governmental administration, resisting arrest and -—”
This gal is saying her race and religion(Islam)were a factor.
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the first did step would be to take away all of the MRAP heavy armored vehicles all magazines over 10 rounds, and no more assault weapons in the vehicles.
the reason is to enhance public safety.
when we give them gear like this it is inevitable that they’re going to be using it, much as an actor can only fully get into a role only after putting on the costume .
I’m very law and order but it is getting more and more clear that numerous police officers have SEAL Team six fantasies dancing in their minds.
Nothing will ever change until how lawsuits get paid out by the cities who employ morons or thugs who get successfully sued.
The city just raises taxes on the producers/taxpayers and oh well, life goes on.
IF, IF, the fuzz can charge you with a felony that sticks, you no longer can own a firearm or vote. I would like to suggest, IMHO, that that is part of this new police state agenda. A subtle way to disarm the public...
I'm OK if the Sovereign pays for the defense attorneys.
But the cop has to pay the price of lawlessness.
Personally.
“Personally I detest the police and endeavor to defund their tyranny at every opportunity.”
It is difficult to defund them when they issue traffic citations of $300 or more for going 5 MPH over the limit.
If there was automatic jail time instead of citations then how many citations would be written? ZERO!
Add tasers to that list, too. All paramilitary gear including the PASGT helmets and camouflage uniforms (WTH are those for anyway?) should be turned in to the state police.
Returning police to the haircut and uniform standards of the 1970s with peaked caps should help dispel their self-image as "GI Joe".
Get on the ball and elect a pro-2nd Amendment, constitutional sheriff in your county. I have one. He’s run two appointed police chiefs out of town who overstepped their authority. He’s also informed the state police commander of the district that one state trooper who harassed citizens is not allowed in the county.
In addition, he has a good number of armed citizens who can be called out and deputized as auxiliary deputies in case of an “emergency.”
You can no longer LEGALLY own a firearm. That doesn’t mean you won’t own a firearm or two or three or——
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