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UNDOF commander: Filipinos' defiance unprofessional (calls Filipino escape an act of cowardice)
PhilStar ^ | September 4, 2014 | Camille Diola

Posted on 09/09/2014 10:35:01 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

MANILA, Philippines — The Indian commander of the United Nations' (UN) peacekeeping force broke his silence on the Philippine military's accusations that he misguidedly ordered besieged Filipino troops to surrender their arms to rebels in Golan Heights over the weekend.

In an interview with a Noida-based newspaper, UN Disengagement Observer Force Commander Lt. Gen. Iqbal Singh Singha criticized the defiance of the 40 trapped Filipino peacekeepers as "non-professional."

Singha, meanwhile, called what the Armed Forces of the Philippines dubbed the "greatest escape" of 40 troops from Position 68 nothing but an "act of cowardice."

"The higher UN echelon as well as the Indian Army agrees with me that the decision was correct. It is an act of cowardice to desert posts especially when a delicate ceasefire was in place," he said.

He also insisted that the troops broke the chain of command and overstepped the UN leadership's authority when their safety and the release of the hostages were still being negotiated for.

(Excerpt) Read more at philstar.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: filipinos; golan; golanheights; india; middleeast; philippines; un
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To: Zhang Fei

How did a Sikh get a muzzie name?

http://www.behindthename.com/name/iqbal


21 posted on 09/10/2014 12:12:05 AM PDT by gasport (President Omoeba needs to evolve a spine)
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To: Slings and Arrows
I hope I got the point across.

Aside from the subject of the thread, she just did a literal translation, and thought it was pretty funny.

22 posted on 09/10/2014 12:12:32 AM PDT by Mark17 (If I have a son, I am going to name him Bill, George, Sue, anything but Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Mark17

Glad she liked.


23 posted on 09/10/2014 12:13:24 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Country Songs Don't Have Happy Endings" - http://youtu.be/W93nc95j1KY)
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To: GeronL

He is not the commander. The German is USAREUR Chief of Staff. I think it is stupid, but he is not a commander.


24 posted on 09/10/2014 12:59:16 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

During the Bulge, Bradley’s First and Ninth Armies were placed under command of Montgomery. Eisenhower claimed it was for tactical and logistical reasons, but many suspect, Eisenhower saw more fight in Montgomery. Montgomery, who was charged with keeping pressure on the German northern flank, performed well enough, but afterwards, when he seemed to take credit for the victory in the Bulge, he infuriated American commanders, to the point where Eisenhower demanded that Montgomery or he resign. Churchill intervened, and Ike settled for a public apology from Montgomery. (I suspect if Patton had been in command in the Ardenne prior to the German assault, they never would have enjoyed even the limited successes that they did.)


25 posted on 09/10/2014 3:49:58 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Zhang Fei

The UN should not have ANY ‘leadership authority’ over the military forces of the various countries who choose to participate in the UN’s ridiculous endeavors.

Take the USA out of the UN and get the UN out of the USA!!!


26 posted on 09/10/2014 4:01:19 AM PDT by octex
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Eisenhower was despised by his peers. Patton would of been the one to get things done.

History is a finicky thing to be sure.


27 posted on 09/10/2014 4:19:23 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: octex

They have had authority for some time, and they get people killed.

Even in Korea, while they may not have had direct authority, everything the West did they wanted to know. Of course the UN was also telling the other side.

This is why MacArthur when planning an attack only told a few of his most trusted officers and kept the plan hidden.

Of course after the attack was carried out, Truman brought him back to the US for punishment and had the press sabotage the general.

The UN has been evil since it’s inception, and the list of treasonous presidents is long.


28 posted on 09/10/2014 4:22:52 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

Eisenhower had to be a politician and a psychotherapist to deal with egos like Montgomery and Patton ... not to mention DeGaulle who won the war on his own, all the time living in London.


29 posted on 09/10/2014 4:31:26 AM PDT by neocon1984
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To: Zhang Fei

Surrendering didn’t work out well for Belgian peacekeepers in Rwanda. After that, I’m surprised the UN would ever allow it again, much less order it.


30 posted on 09/10/2014 5:02:46 AM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: reefdiver
Sorry to burst your bubble there reefd:

http://www.kvacanada.com/feb062010newsletter.htm

31 posted on 09/10/2014 6:20:06 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Drink your Ovaltine)
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To: Zhang Fei
I can just see the Filipinos laughing, & laughing.

Hahahahohohohehehe.

Whada maroon.

32 posted on 09/10/2014 6:24:09 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Zhang Fei

33 posted on 09/10/2014 6:32:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: octex

a large number of member nations of the UN consider themselves enemies of the USA. These UN missions in NYC are each and all centers of anti-American thinking and action as well as espionage. They should not be on US soil.


34 posted on 09/10/2014 7:05:53 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Instead of sending our troops to Ebola land send the UN.


35 posted on 09/10/2014 7:15:48 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Zhang Fei
UN denies ordering Phl soldiers to surrender arms UNITED NATIONS – The UN peacekeeping chief strongly denied on Wednesday allegations from the Philippines’ armed forces chief that Filipino peacekeepers in the Golan Heights were ordered to surrender their weapons to Islamist militants who had trapped them. Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) chief Gen. Gregorio Catapang said his soldiers defended themselves against Islamist rebels last weekend in defiance of an order from their UN force commander to surrender their weapons, a move that would be highly controversial in the six-nation, blue-helmeted force. The UN’s undersecretary-general for peacekeeping, Herve Ladsous, denied that any such order was given .....Asked what order was given to the Filipinos, Ladsous replied, “Never to hand over weapons.” The order was simply “not to shoot,” he said. One UN official told Reuters that no force commander would order his troops to hand over weapons to rebels. If that were to happen, the official said, the commander would “be out of a job” since countries that supply weapons and material to the force would be reluctant to re-supply the mission. ....Several Security Council diplomats said the issue of what orders might have been given was discussed on Wednesday in a closed-door meeting of the 15-nation body. In that meeting, Ladsous expressed full support for Singha, diplomats who were present told Reuters. Ladsous later told reporters that Singha had “exercised good sound judgment all along” during the crisis http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/09/05/1365566/un-denies-ordering-phl-soldiers-surrender-arms
36 posted on 09/10/2014 11:46:35 PM PDT by cold start
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To: cold start
UN denies ordering Phl soldiers to surrender arms

Distinction without a difference. Al Qaeda was moving to surround the force. Once surrounded, they could hand over their weapons (i.e. surrender) or fight and be massacred. Your loyalty to your compatriot is understandable, but not exactly disinterested. I wonder what your response would have been if a Filipino general had given the order to an Indian unit.

37 posted on 09/11/2014 5:55:33 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Depends. I posted the article because of the one sided nature of the discussion. I simply have no way to figure out for myself what the actual thinking here was. It is still a fact that Fijian UN soldiers were captive and unlike officers being in command of their own forces, UN operations are handled more delicately. I don’t think the Fijians would have been delighted if their soldiers were harmed as a result of any order from the UN force commander. The General in question had moved himself into Israel & was working with both the Israeli army & the Syrians to deal with the situation when the Filipinos did what they did.

Btw, Indian units get told all the time in UN operations to not take offensive action. That’s par for the course.


38 posted on 09/11/2014 8:05:07 AM PDT by cold start
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