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San Jose cops sued for stopping car carrying gunshot victim
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | September 5, 2014 | Henry K. Lee

Posted on 09/05/2014 6:51:57 PM PDT by artichokegrower

A 16-year-old boy who was being driven to a hospital by friends after he was shot at a San Jose party died because police officers stopped the vehicle and then failed to provide medical help, the boy's father said in a federal civil rights lawsuit filed Thursday.

Gerardo Jorge Medina was struck in the stomach by a stray bullet fired at a party on the 10300 block of Murtha Road in eastern San Jose on June 13, 2013, according to the suit filed in U.S. District Court in San Francisco.

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To: artichokegrower

you forgot that there is a handful of cop haters on here because they hate the law and want anarchy,.\

After Zimmermann and the Ferguson shooting then they appear but quickly disappear once facts get out, but lie a good liberal they will use anything to justify their hatred of anything which calls for law .


41 posted on 09/05/2014 7:53:12 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: dragnet2

If one of mine are very serious or critical and within a few minutes or so drive to an ER, I’m not hanging around waiting for anyone.

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For the hospitals where I live, those arriving by ambulance are seen immediately in the ER. Those who drive have to wait.


42 posted on 09/05/2014 7:53:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: cableguymn
If you are alive to take an ass-chewing.... it's all good, and you can lean back and smile.

/johnny

43 posted on 09/05/2014 7:53:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It seems to me that control freak is the type of personality naturally attracted to the job.


44 posted on 09/05/2014 7:55:49 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Mears

The entire article is the viewpoint of the slime lawyer that is suing the cops.

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For the anti-cop chorus on FR all they need is one side of the story to slam the police. If they lived in Ferguson, they’d be looting and burning the place down.


45 posted on 09/05/2014 7:55:56 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
If you bleed heavily on their floor, or complain of chest pains, they will see you right friggin now, even if you arrive in a POV.

Been there, done that.

/johnny

46 posted on 09/05/2014 7:57:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jospehm20

A lot of cops get on steroids which only exacerbates the problem.


47 posted on 09/05/2014 7:57:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: mass55th

Depends on situation. I drove my husband 50 miles to a hospital when he had a heart attack a few years back. I called the hospital and was in touch with them on my way. In my area average response time is around an hour, still 50 miles to the hospital. I still have my husband and am sure he would not be here if I had dialed 911.


48 posted on 09/05/2014 8:00:21 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Moonman62
Perhaps you confuse anti-statist with anti-cop.

I will admit to being completely anti-cop when it comes to the former East German police.

/johnny

49 posted on 09/05/2014 8:00:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Moonman62

If ya think someone critical transported in vehicle pulling up to an ER entrance, is going to be sent to the waiting room, I don’t know what to say to you.

I’d take my chances, as I’ve seen people die waiting for a response, and or during the ride to ER due to the fact they had to wait that extra 15 or so minutes for paramedics to arrive and transport...

It’s a personal choice.


50 posted on 09/05/2014 8:01:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tammy8
Does he know you know that? Does he treat you well so that you will carry him to the hospital and not call 911 and wait. ;)

/johnny

51 posted on 09/05/2014 8:01:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Moonman62

I find the entire thing quite dismaying but that’s the way it is.

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52 posted on 09/05/2014 8:04:04 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Moonman62

I have taken people to ER several times over the years, they have all been seen immediately. I don’t take people unless it is an emergency, and ER staff that I have dealt with treat the most critical patients first no matter how they arrive.


53 posted on 09/05/2014 8:10:22 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Tammy8

I guess I’m spoiled from living in a small city where the response time is a lot faster for emergencies, and where shootings are practically non-existent. I grew up in Rochester, NY in the 50’s. Things were sure a lot different then. I wouldn’t live there now if they paid me.


54 posted on 09/05/2014 8:11:26 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Moonman62

They are billing people 2k for the ride alone in some regions...

Get to a real ER physician as quick as possible or stand and wait for a paramedic?

Hmmmm...

If possible and depending on the situation, I am taking them....

How about those 30 minutes or so away? Would you wait 1+ hour to get one of yours to an ER?


55 posted on 09/05/2014 8:11:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Bob

That was my thought as well.

What a mess that would have been for cops to show up to investigate a shooting.

Illegal drugs, guns, drinking.

Small wonder they loaded him in the car.

THEY should be the ones being sued, aside from the shooter.

I don’t see that the cops were recorded as doing anything wrong.

They stopped a carful of young kids speeding for they don’t know what reason. They start pulling them out and no doubt smell the booze, probably the grass, the kids are probably incoherent, and the cops probably don’t have good reason to take them seriously until they come across the injured kid.

All the cop haters have never walked in a cops shoes and don’t know what they deal with on a daily or nightly basis.

Are there bad cops? Of course, and I am not at all defending the police state mentality cops. However, considering how much of a judgment call in making decisions their job takes, they need to be cut some slack.

Everyone is an expert after the fact. It’s easy to sit back and armchair critique what should have been done, knowing facts that were not known at the time of the incident.


56 posted on 09/05/2014 8:16:51 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: mass55th
San Jose is over 8 minutes for over 90% of their calls... just to respond.

Yeah. It depends on where you live.

It ain't all soft grass and sunshine and gumdrops everywhere.

/johnny

57 posted on 09/05/2014 8:17:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yep he is pretty darn special. I sure did not want to be an ambulance driver but have had to do it several times over the years. Funny part is the closest ER is a one horse town so they had him (us- I went to of course) air lifted to big city hospital. At the big city hospital when they were doing paperwork they couldn’t figure out why there was no report with his vitals and whatnot from the first ambulance crew. I told them I didn’t write a report. The hospital in the one horse town is used to people transporting patients on their own but the big city folks could not believe I did it.


58 posted on 09/05/2014 8:17:31 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: artichokegrower; All

That part of San Jose is so full of gang members and druggies....They didn’t call police or an AMBULANCE because they don’t want to get arrested. They act like gang members and get shot and then expect the police to treat them like upstanding citizens.

I don’t believe this story at all.....I realize it is the family’s position based on the law suit but I don’t buy it. regional is not that far from Story and White.

PLUS I want to know how many of these thugs are ILLEGALS???


59 posted on 09/05/2014 8:19:36 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Lurker

How about gang members quit shooting each other??


60 posted on 09/05/2014 8:20:07 PM PDT by Nifster
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