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Do Good for Your Own Self’: Osteen Says Obedience, Worship ‘Not for God’
Christian News ^ | 8/28/14 | Heather Clark

Posted on 08/29/2014 8:59:12 PM PDT by JohnKinAK

A recently recorded video is circulating online of Victoria Osteen, wife of megachurch speaker and author Joel Osteen, calling on congregants at Lakewood Church to ‘do good for your own self’ because obedience, the church and worship are not for God as much as for self-happiness.

“I just want to encourage every one of us to realize when we obey God, we’re not doing it for God—I mean, that’s one way to look at it—we’re doing it for ourselves, because God takes pleasure when we’re happy,” she declares in the undated 36-second clip with her husband standing by her side and nodding. “That’s the thing that gives Him the greatest joy…”

“So, I want you to know this morning: Just do good for your own self. Do good because God wants you to be happy,” Osteen continues. “When you come to church, when you worship Him, you’re not doing it for God really. You’re doing it for yourself, because that’s what makes God happy. Amen?”

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Steve Camp, pastor of The Cross Church in Palm City, Florida and former singer/songwriter, told Christian News Network that he viewed the video on Wednesday, and while saddened, he was not surprised at her remarks. He stated that Osteen’s statements were humanistic in nature and antithetical to Scripture.

“It’s the age old sin of idolatry—that it’s not about God, it’s about us,” he explained. “True worship for the humanist is about how we feel at the end of the day and what gives us meaning, as opposed to what gives God glory.”

“When we come to see men happy rather than God glorified, it’s not worship, it’s idolatry,” Camp stated, reading from Psalm 115:1,

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1 posted on 08/29/2014 8:59:12 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: JohnKinAK

They are self-absorbed materialists. It is all about them and not about Christ.


2 posted on 08/29/2014 9:03:20 PM PDT by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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Can you say “Slippery Slope?”


3 posted on 08/29/2014 9:03:55 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: JohnKinAK

Camp is right.


4 posted on 08/29/2014 9:05:56 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Graewoulf; metmom; Morgana

They worship self-happiness

That is pretty much what her husband has been preaching for years


5 posted on 08/29/2014 9:07:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: JohnKinAK

Smiley Osteen


6 posted on 08/29/2014 9:08:26 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Graewoulf

_> Can you say “Slippery Slope?”

More like Telon Slope. I listened to it and couln’t believe my ears. I’m still trying to figure out if she meant exactly what she said or it was taken the wrong way. It’s starting to sound like a prosperity preacher with no relationship with G-d to me.


7 posted on 08/29/2014 9:08:32 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: JohnKinAK

“Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.”


8 posted on 08/29/2014 9:09:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jsanders2001; xzins

I like to quote the Bible, - - - it is the best Reality Check that I know of.


9 posted on 08/29/2014 9:12:52 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: JohnKinAK

Once a church goes Mega, I believe it is either for self aggrandizement or profit. History has shown this to be true more than once.

And I don’t leave any church or denomination out in my assessment.


10 posted on 08/29/2014 9:14:48 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: JohnKinAK
Do what's right. It's good in itself. It also sometimes happens to be good for you.
If you do what's right only because or when it's good for you, you're missing the point.
If you stop doing what's right because you don't always get rewarded, you've lost your way.

11 posted on 08/29/2014 9:24:08 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: JohnKinAK

Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Tag line for a long time.


12 posted on 08/29/2014 9:28:12 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.)
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New age “Christianity”


13 posted on 08/29/2014 9:32:42 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: JohnKinAK

Camp is right...Victoria Osteen is teaching mega church idolatry. And Joel is right in the middle of it. MNSHO


14 posted on 08/29/2014 9:35:17 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: JohnKinAK

Oh my!

**‘do good for your own self’ because obedience, the church and worship are not for God as much as for self-happiness.**


15 posted on 08/29/2014 9:54:08 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: shankbear

Have never cared for either.


16 posted on 08/29/2014 9:56:30 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: GeronL; Graewoulf; metmom

Never been to their church dude, have no clue.


17 posted on 08/29/2014 9:56:50 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: JohnKinAK

Why did God make you?

To know Him, to love Him and to serve Him in this life and be happy with Him in the next.


18 posted on 08/29/2014 10:02:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: JohnKinAK

I Samuel 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.


19 posted on 08/29/2014 10:06:29 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: JohnKinAK

Luke 10:27

 

And he answered, "YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF."


20 posted on 08/29/2014 10:07:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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