Posted on 08/29/2014 8:59:12 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
A recently recorded video is circulating online of Victoria Osteen, wife of megachurch speaker and author Joel Osteen, calling on congregants at Lakewood Church to do good for your own self because obedience, the church and worship are not for God as much as for self-happiness.
I just want to encourage every one of us to realize when we obey God, were not doing it for GodI mean, thats one way to look at itwere doing it for ourselves, because God takes pleasure when were happy, she declares in the undated 36-second clip with her husband standing by her side and nodding. Thats the thing that gives Him the greatest joy
So, I want you to know this morning: Just do good for your own self. Do good because God wants you to be happy, Osteen continues. When you come to church, when you worship Him, youre not doing it for God really. Youre doing it for yourself, because thats what makes God happy. Amen?
SNIP
Steve Camp, pastor of The Cross Church in Palm City, Florida and former singer/songwriter, told Christian News Network that he viewed the video on Wednesday, and while saddened, he was not surprised at her remarks. He stated that Osteens statements were humanistic in nature and antithetical to Scripture.
Its the age old sin of idolatrythat its not about God, its about us, he explained. True worship for the humanist is about how we feel at the end of the day and what gives us meaning, as opposed to what gives God glory.
When we come to see men happy rather than God glorified, its not worship, its idolatry, Camp stated, reading from Psalm 115:1,
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They are self-absorbed materialists. It is all about them and not about Christ.
Can you say “Slippery Slope?”
Camp is right.
They worship self-happiness
That is pretty much what her husband has been preaching for years
Smiley Osteen
_> Can you say Slippery Slope?
More like Telon Slope. I listened to it and couln’t believe my ears. I’m still trying to figure out if she meant exactly what she said or it was taken the wrong way. It’s starting to sound like a prosperity preacher with no relationship with G-d to me.
“Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.”
I like to quote the Bible, - - - it is the best Reality Check that I know of.
Once a church goes Mega, I believe it is either for self aggrandizement or profit. History has shown this to be true more than once.
And I don’t leave any church or denomination out in my assessment.
Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Tag line for a long time.
New age “Christianity”
Camp is right...Victoria Osteen is teaching mega church idolatry. And Joel is right in the middle of it. MNSHO
Oh my!
**do good for your own self because obedience, the church and worship are not for God as much as for self-happiness.**
Have never cared for either.
Never been to their church dude, have no clue.
Why did God make you?
To know Him, to love Him and to serve Him in this life and be happy with Him in the next.
I Samuel 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
Luke 10:27
And he answered, "YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF."
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