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St. Paul police defend skyway arrest; charges dismissed
Pioneer Press ^ | 8-28-14 | Mara H. Gottfried

Posted on 08/29/2014 7:10:25 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

St. Paul police responded Thursday to criticism over officers' interaction with a man, including police use of a Taser, saying a video doesn't tell the whole story.

Chris Lollie, 28, said he was sitting on a chair in a downtown skyway Jan. 31 when a security guard told him it was a private area and he couldn't be there. No signs were posted saying it was private, Lollie said. The guard called police.

Lollie, of St. Paul, told an officer he was heading to pick up his children and didn't have to identify himself because he had done nothing wrong.

On the cellphone video that Lollie took, he can be heard saying, "The problem is I'm black, that's the problem. No, it really is, because I didn't do anything wrong.

WARNING: This video includes expletives.

Lollie said an officer later put his hands around his throat and ripped his jacket open. Another officer used a Taser on him, Lollie said.

Police wrote in a report that Lollie was "actively resisting by attempting to pull his arm away" and "began to forcefully try to shove past us as he was pulling away from us." An officer pushed Lollie against a wall to try to control him and Lollie accused the officer of trying to choke him, the report said.

"Several times I attempted to force his hands behind his back but was unable to overcome his active resistance," the report said. When Lollie's "resistance was becoming uncontrollable," an officer used a Taser on him, the report said.

Lollie was charged with three misdemeanors -- trespassing, disorderly conduct and obstructing legal process. All counts were dismissed July 31. Lollie said his attorney went to court with surveillance video from the skyway and witness statements.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: cellphone; donutwatch; mn; video
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always remember to erase the cell phone video.
1 posted on 08/29/2014 7:10:25 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

A black man who is responsible for his children? Ha! I can understand why the police tapered that lying b*stard.


2 posted on 08/29/2014 7:14:11 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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always remember to erase the cell phone video.

Always remember being an ass to someone doing a thankless job brings more pee on yourself.

3 posted on 08/29/2014 7:19:11 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Cutting all PD budgets by 30% should help stop a bunch of this wasteful nonsense.

/johnny

4 posted on 08/29/2014 7:22:38 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
The article omits the police's primary charge against this 'perp'... Contempt of Cop.

Morons.

5 posted on 08/29/2014 7:26:13 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: TurboZamboni

guy is sitting in an unmarked area and the guard tries to roust him. he stands his ground - he is not doing anything wrong -and the guard calls police. if this article is true, then he was busted for being black in public.

and i an a big supporter of the police.


6 posted on 08/29/2014 7:27:48 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: TurboZamboni
No signs were posted saying it was private, Lollie said.

Haven't been there for decades, but remember being very impressed by the skyways downtown on my last visit.

As I understand it, the skyways run between privately-owned buildings and are themselves considered part of those buildings. The public is generally allowed access while the buildings are open, but they're still private property and owners retain the right to ask people to move on instead of loitering.

7 posted on 08/29/2014 7:28:16 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: TurboZamboni
Don't know enough about the specifics of the case. Can the police order an individual to move along if they're loitering in front of a business for a lengthy period of time? The guys's excuse, he was waiting for his children, sounds a little bogus, but can the police just tell someone to get moving because they look suspicious? One of the commenters dug up this guy's rap sheet, and he's got two previous convictions for disorderly conduct. Still don't know if what he was doing was illegal.

On a separate note, I remember being part of a Republican "cheering" section that was ordered to move to a separate, farther area during a speech given by Al Gore and Joe Lieberman at a public park in La Crosse, Wisc. in 2000. Nobody was planning on throwing things at the candidates, but they moved our group much further away anyway. Nobody in our group protested, we just did what the cops told us to do.

8 posted on 08/29/2014 7:38:34 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: camle

Black had nothing to do with it.
He did not respect the rent-a-cop’s AUTHORITAH!!


9 posted on 08/29/2014 7:42:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: camle

“guy is sitting in an unmarked area and the guard tries to roust him. he stands his ground”

It doesn’t have to be marked. Marking supposedly prevents entry. An owner or their representative giving you notice you are on private property, combined with a chance to leave, satisfies the law in most states.

ie,,,”a guy is sitting on my unmarked back porch and I try to roust him by informing him he is on private property, and must leave immediately. He stands his ground,,,”

See?


10 posted on 08/29/2014 7:42:17 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

There a many, many black men who are responsible for their children. Do not paint an entire race for the actions of some! That IS racist.

I don’t care what skin color you are. No one should be subject to police search without probable cause that a crime is being committed and a warrant. The only exception should be imminent danger, i.e. the person actively committing violence against the police or other citizens. A black man minding his own business who is not a threat to anyone else? Get a warrant.


11 posted on 08/29/2014 7:42:21 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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He was told it was private property and to move on. If it were me I would move. This guy felt entitled that he can stay but I have to move?

His rotten attitude was also on display when not showing ID to police. This could be a setup by him to get a lawyer and sue in Obama’s America.


12 posted on 08/29/2014 7:48:28 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: camle
If this was a public street, you'd have a point.

But the Minneapolis skyways have never been public. They are owned by the buildings they connect. They are private walkways.

13 posted on 08/29/2014 7:48:51 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Get a warrant? This was private property, not public. No warrant needed to tell him to move on.


14 posted on 08/29/2014 7:49:58 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: DesertRhino

but it wasn’t private property. it was in a public skyway. apparently a rest area where people can sit down, as on a park bench.


15 posted on 08/29/2014 7:50:01 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: slowhandluke

private walkways - for public use.


16 posted on 08/29/2014 7:50:51 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle

Its private property, not city


17 posted on 08/29/2014 7:52:36 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: AppyPappy

“Black had nothing to do with it.
He did not respect the rent-a-cop’s AUTHORITAH!!”

Unfortunately, being Black did most likely have everything to do with it! I don’t like Blacks doing illegal stuff, but this kind of “police action” simply reinforces the problem we have with integrating Blacks into our society. The fact is that they get FKed with by the cops far too often and it only makes trying to fix the problems more difficult. It’s not hard to see why they want the cop’s head in Ferguson even if what he did was completely within the law.


18 posted on 08/29/2014 7:57:24 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: driftless2
The guys's excuse, he was waiting for his children, sounds a little bogus, but can the police just tell someone to get moving because they look suspicious?

Except that he was sitting in front of his kid's preschool, they were there, his arrest and tazering was witnessed by a member of the preschool staff, and her statement to the police was also a reason for the charges to be dropped.

The only thing that was bogus in all of this were the original charges.

19 posted on 08/29/2014 7:57:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: vette6387
I don’t like Blacks doing illegal stuff...

I don't like anyone doing illegal stuff regardless if they are black or white or, in this case, blue.

20 posted on 08/29/2014 7:58:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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