Posted on 08/24/2014 11:03:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai
Calling Hillary Rodham Clinton a war hawk, Sen. Rand Paul says that if the former secretary of state seeks the presidency, some voters will worry that she will get the U.S. involved in another Mideast war.
Paul is a leading anti-interventionist in the GOP and is considering running for president. Last year he opposed President Barack Obamas call for military action in Syria. [ ]
I think thats what scares the Democrats the most, is that in a general election, were I to run, theres gonna be a lot of independents and even some Democrats who say, You know what? We are tired of war, Paul said. Were worried that Hillary Clinton will get us involved in another Middle Eastern war, because she's so gung-ho.
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That pegs Rand as an überlib.
Sad that Bush didn’t crush them either. Aside from the press piling on him like a whole defensive line on an undersized running back, he should have pressed forward; but I am not sure that he had the will.
“(The) libs cannot see that Hillary is not a hawk, but a pure opportunist.”
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Hitlery has not changed what she is for a very long time. This, going all the way back to Arkansas. Opportunist, yes and so much more that is far worse. Remember her complicity in ChinaGate, her Marxist views, and the very long list of Clinton “associates” that met with sad endings. The list goes on, and on. The radical far left remains at the top of the Democrat food (power) chain.
So he didn’t call Hillary a “War Hawk”?
$1.7 million..., now that’s a game changer isn’t it. /s
I don’t know all the particulars, but Khadaffy had become a known quantity. He wasn’t causing problems and we have no idea how the Muslim Brotherhood fiasco will turn out, even years later.
Egypt certainly isn’t thrilled with the Muslim Brotherhood.
If Hillary was for something, I generally disagree with it. I might here too. I might not.
Rand is an ass. No he’s not his dad. He has found his own way to ignorance.
I think there’s truth to the idea Bush wasn’t aggressive enough. At least he had the common sense to allow his general on the ground to change things up and bring the campaign back from the brink. That’s where I credit Bush.
That and his refusal to simply hand Iraq to the terrorists, I think Bush did a decent job. The rules of engagement is where I fault him and Obama.
Obama’s rules of engagement seem to be terrible. I believe some of Bush’s were too, but I may be wrong on that.
McCain, Hillary, and Rubio share the same themes. Rubio throws in a accent occasionally to make it different.
The nut doesn’t fall far from the tree.
That’s my take on it. He has a following even here though.
The word is "neocon". Old communists who broke with the USSR. Somehow, being for perpetual war and empire became "conservative" back in the '70s. It's not. It's statism.
Bill Kristol loves Hillary. These people are evil.
Thank you Rand. The more you open your mouth the less likely it is you get the GOP nomination.
Rand Paul has more common sense than all of the chicken hawks combined.
Rand Paul’s foreign policy views make him wholly unfit to be president.
I think he meant battle axe.
I don’t think that Rand is a bad man, but it’s becoming pretty obvious that he is part goof. Bob
Chicken Hawks? DU is rubbing off on you.
Do you know where his type of doctrine started?
It started in the 60s and 70s in the Hippy movement. George McGovern brought it mainstream. The Democrats have not supported a military campaign since.
For the record, they were against everything we did during the Cold War too. If Russia came down against something, the people who were the first to adopt your stance, joined them. Each and every time they joined them.
When Ronald Reagan tussled with the U.S.S.R., these people opposed him every step of the way. He was a Warmonger to them. Today, folks who support a strong military and campaigns overseas are the ones who take on his mantle, and are called Warmongers.
Today China is termed the dominant power in the Indian Ocean. If certain people get their way, that will expand outward. China already has designs on territory way behind it’s shores. It wants to expand and every nation in the region is at risk. That includes every nation in the Indian Ocean.
If we have to deal with China at some point, we will have surrendered vast expanses of the high seas to them before hostilities break out.
If India is attacked, we’re not there to help. China wins. If any part of that region is attacked, there will nobody to stop China. China will do what Japan did in World War II, only there will be nobody to set things straight.
I understand what drives you. In some respects I wish we could live in the world you think you want. I don’t believe it exists now, and it for certain will not exist in a few short years.
We either remain globally capable, or we surrender our supremacy to a power that will dominate this planet in ways you only thought the United States did. Sadly, when you wake up to the difference, it will all be over.
A force for good will have been eliminated, and if you think our quality of life here increases after that, I can’t help you.
You have aligned yourself with the enemies of our nation.
I know you think you are taking the moral position here. I know you do this thinking it is the best thing.
It isn’t.
I agree. There was a time when I thought both Ron and Rand Paul were stand up guys. They sound good on some issues, but when you peal the layers back, they’re myopic blind spots are massive.
If our country was not bankrupt by every standard practice of accounting, I would be the first to thump my chest and roar loudly and act as a super power.
Wake up and smell the coffee. We are $17.6 TRILLION in official debt and $95 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities from laws on books for future benefits to Medicare, Medicaid & Social Security and interest due on national debt.
Every super power in history met it’s demise with military adventures on a bankrupt treasury. This is not the era of Ronald Reagan when our economy was strong, thanks to his policies.
Our children and grandchildren already owe Trillions of debt to China, Japan & other foreigners. This is not the time to be chicken hawks.
We better strengthen the economy, pay off the debt and then we can thump our chest again.
With regards to China, they can flex their muscles exactly because they have an expanding economy. We owe THEM money. They do not owe us anything. They are our financial masters now.
I can’t think of anything more stupid than borrowing from China to protect oil lanes out of straits of Hormuz from which most of the oil flows to China and Japan.
What I find to be entertaining, is the folks who come here to lament our various expenses, saying we just can’t do it any longer. Foreign aid, wars...
Lumped together these won’t reach half what our outlay in welfare has been.
Since 2000, we have spent approximately $7.5 trillion on welfare. We have not spent $3.75 trillion on the other combined.
So when folks come here professing to only care about the plight of the United States financially, I just smile and think, suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you do.
$7.5 trillion, and it doesn’t even hit your radar. Our military spending on foreign wars, now there’s a serious problem.
No, actually it isn’t. It’s the price of keeping the world free. Who benefits from that the most?
I’d say a global super-power does. It’s citizen do. Keeping the high seas safe for passage, and keeping terrorists in check as much as possible, those benefit us all, whether you realize it or not.
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