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Shanghai to San Francisco in 100 minutes by Chinese supersonic submarine
South China Morning Post ^ | Sunday, 24 August, 2014 | Stephen Chen

Posted on 08/24/2014 6:00:06 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Chinese eye 'supercavitation' technology as future of underwater travel

China has moved a step closer to creating a supersonic submarine that could travel from Shanghai to San Francisco in less than two hours.

New technology developed by a team of scientists at Harbin Institute of Technology's Complex Flow and Heat Transfer Lab has made it easier for a submarine, or torpedo, to travel at extremely high speeds underwater.

Li Fengchen, professor of fluid machinery and engineering, said the team's innovative approach meant they could now create the complicated air "bubble" required for rapid underwater travel. "We are very excited by its potential," he said.

Water produces more friction, or drag, on an object than air, which means conventional submarines cannot travel as fast as an aircraft.

However, during the cold war, the Soviet military developed a technology called supercavitation, which involves enveloping a submerged vessel inside an air bubble to avoid problems caused by water drag.

A Soviet supercavitation torpedo called Shakval was able to reach a speed of 370km/h or more - much faster than any other conventional torpedoes.

In theory, a supercavitating vessel could reach the speed of sound underwater, or about 5,800km/h, which would reduce the journey time for a transatlantic underwater cruise to less than an hour, and for a transpacific journey to about 100 minutes, according to a report by California Institute of Technology in 2001.

However, supercavitation technology has faced two major problems. First, the submerged vessel has needed to be launched at high speeds, approaching 100km/h, to generate and maintain the air bubble.

Second, it is extremely difficult - if not impossible - to steer the vessel using conventional mechanisms, such as a rudder, which are inside the bubble without any direct contact with water.

As a result, its application has been limited to unmanned vessels, such as torpedoes, but nearly all of these torpedoes were fired in a straight line because they had limited ability to turn.

Li said the team of Chinese scientists had found an innovative means of addressing both problems.

Once in the water, the team's supercavitation vessel would constantly "shower" a special liquid membrane on its own surface. Although this membrane would be worn off by water, in the meantime it could significantly reduce the water drag on the vessel at low speed.

After its speed had reached 75km/h or more the vessel would enter the supercavitation state. The man-made liquid membrane on the vessel surface could help with steering because, with precise control, different levels of friction could be created on different parts of the vessel.

"Our method is different from any other approach, such as vector propulsion," or thrust created by an engine, Li said. "By combining liquid-membrane technology with supercavitation, we can significantly reduce the launch challenges and make cruising control easier."

However, Li said many problems still needed to be solved before supersonic submarine travel became feasible. Besides the control issue, a powerful underwater rocket engine still had to be developed to give the vessel a longer range. The effective range of the Russian supercavitation torpedoes, for example, was only between 11 km and 15 km.

Li said the supercavitation technology was not limited only to military use. In future, it could benefit civilian underwater transport, or water sports such as swimming.

"If a swimsuit can create and hold many tiny bubbles in water, it can significantly reduce the water drag; swimming in water could be as effortless as flying in the sky," he said.

Besides Russia, countries such as Germany, Iran and the United States have been developing vessels or weapons using supercavitation technology.

Professor Wang Guoyu, the head of the Fluid Mechanics Laboratory at Beijing Institute of Technology who is leading another state-funded research project on supercavitation, said the global research community had been troubled for decades by the lack of innovative ideas to address the huge scientific and engineering challenges.

"The size of the bubble is difficult to control, and the vessel is almost impossible to steer," he said. While cruising at high speed during supercavitation, a fin could be snapped off if it touched the water because of the liquid's far greater density.

Despite many scientists worldwide working on similar projects, the latest progress remains unclear because they are regarded as military secrets.

Wang, a member of the water armament committee of the China Society of Naval Architects and Marine Engineers, said even he had been kept in the dark about recent supercavitation developments in China.

"The primary drive still comes from the military, so most research projects are shrouded in secrecy," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinasub; chinasupersonicsub; hit; shanghai; submarine; supercavitation
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Thank you big business for moving jobs to China...you should be ashamed, but you don’t give a F about the US.


61 posted on 08/24/2014 10:13:37 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: ExCTCitizen

I agree.

However neither party, is currently supporting an increase in American hiring, and a return of US jobs.

GOP needs to stop its sell-out, and become militantly pro-American.

Buy American. Bring back jobs, to America.

For real. Bring back US jobs.

Someone will eventually step up and run with this issue. If the GOP waits for the Dems to do so, it will mean the GOP no longer have any America constituency.

It will in effect, be the end of the GOP.

I want the GOP to win, and become ever stronger. That will in my opinion only happen, when the GOP becomes the party of American jobs.

Get with it GOP.

Support American jobs.


62 posted on 08/24/2014 10:20:08 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Vaquero

I had one of those on my Lionel set.


63 posted on 08/24/2014 10:55:46 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

So true... I try to buy American as much as I can. If not American made, Canada then Mexico...but we need to get jobs back in the USA.


64 posted on 08/24/2014 11:00:23 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: eartrumpet
A supersonic airplane has a smooth deceleration to subsonic then to landing speed. I imagine the transition from supersonic to full stop in a submarine would be severe. As soon as you lose the supercavitation effect, that water is gonna catch hold and slow you down in a hurry.

Not even supersonic speeds are required for this to be a big issue. Imagine ...  you've managed to get the submarine up to, say 300kph or so, and are cruising along just fine. Now, let's say you need to slow down to return to port or a duty station. Making that transition from supercavitation to 'normal' underwater would be a stone bitch! Water is hard.

65 posted on 08/24/2014 11:01:24 AM PDT by zeugma (Islam: The Antidote for civilization)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Go for it, China.


66 posted on 08/24/2014 11:44:33 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: chopperman

At that speed, a much smaller aquatic animal would also be a threat! Holy MACKERAL!


67 posted on 08/24/2014 12:50:35 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, was not there!)
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To: Popman

H-2-Oh. And come to think of it, if the bubble is created by from the water itself, would it be explosive by nature? Hydrogen, Oxygen?


68 posted on 08/24/2014 12:53:55 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, was not there!)
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To: zeugma

It’s funny how this problem never concerned them when they developed supersonic torpedoes for some reason.


69 posted on 08/24/2014 1:01:17 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: sukhoi-30mki
A Soviet supercavitation torpedo called Shakval

Spelling correction. It should be "Shkval," which is Russian for "Squall."

70 posted on 08/24/2014 2:15:17 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Available from Amazon.)
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To: eartrumpet

Well, the torpedoes aren’t actually “supersonic”, as the speed of sound is insane in water. Also, you don’t have to worry about slowing a torpedo down. It stops when it explodes. :-)


71 posted on 08/25/2014 9:12:43 AM PDT by zeugma (Islam: The Antidote for civilization)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sounds like a crock to me.

A little over 6000 miles in 100 minutes. 60 miles a minute. 3600 miles an hour. Through water. And allowing for acceleration and deceleration, perhaps a top speed of 5000 mph. Should be enough friction to make the water boil.


72 posted on 09/07/2014 11:20:27 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: JoeFromSidney

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval
73 posted on 09/07/2014 11:49:39 AM PDT by cynwoody
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