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Wow, who saw this coming?
1 posted on 08/22/2014 10:17:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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According to David Kennedy, director at the Center for Crime Prevention and Control at John Jay College, though these types of events are as rare as a “meteor strike” for most communities, police departments increasingly have come to believe that “they should have the technology ready in case one occurs.”

So it should be used as often as a "meteor strike" occurs in these communities, too.

For most communities, that means never.

Not when someone has a bench warrant for unpaid parking tickets, not when they are suspected of pilfering the neighbor's lawn gnome collection, and not even if someone who is on the confidential informant payroll thinks they might have smelled marijuana smoke walking by someone's house.

It is not a question of having the ability to use the appropriate amount of force when needed, it remains a question of the inappropriate use of force.

Those who were involved in the raid where a carelessly tossed flashbang blew the meat off a toddler's chest and face failed to assess the situation, including who was present and who wasn't. It is questionable if the raid style would have been appropriate even if the person they wanted had been there and the child had not.

29 posted on 08/23/2014 12:32:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Sorry Michael A. Cohen, not really, but you are dead wrong. No pun intended. The American gun culture has been here since the beginning. The real cause is America’s immoral culture. Now want to try again. idiot?


30 posted on 08/23/2014 12:42:45 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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Yea but they got killed. Nothing is better than free when it comes to gear.


31 posted on 08/23/2014 12:59:52 AM PDT by Domangart (Tho I walk Through the valley of Wall Mart, I fear no man.)
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what a crock.

they worry more about law abiding folks than the criminals.

wtf is wrong in this country...


32 posted on 08/23/2014 1:23:28 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm ........... a lot of the "US gun culture" is made up of cops in civilian hobbies.

WFT?

34 posted on 08/23/2014 1:45:30 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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Anti-gun horse sh*t from the militantly anti-gun liberals at The Boston Globe.


38 posted on 08/23/2014 1:58:55 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Police have nothing to fear unless they are on the wrong side


42 posted on 08/23/2014 2:49:15 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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Misnomer with the “gun culture” bit. The huge majority of the “gun culture” are stand-up citizens who would gladly defend their families/neighborhoods and work with the cops if they were outnumbered by the bad guys. The cops are militarizing to the point where they could quell a very large segment of the People if it is ever deemed that we are an actual, imminent threat....


43 posted on 08/23/2014 2:50:05 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Over the past two weeks, Americans have been transfixed and horrified by the surreal images of police donning camouflage and gas masks and pointing sniper rifles at unarmed demonstrators in Ferguson, Mo. Why have police departments become so enamored with tools more associated with war than with walking the beat? One answer is receiving precious little attention: America’s gun culture.

Liar. America's gun culture goes back to the early 1700's. This militarization is completely independent of that, and is a trend that only started in earnest in the late 2000's.

That's just about the time Obama was elected, if I remember correctly.

45 posted on 08/23/2014 2:55:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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It’s simply impossible to talk incisively about what’s happening in Ferguson without talking about guns...

Assertion without proof, typical uranalist trick.

47 posted on 08/23/2014 3:09:34 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ $0.05 cents a can.)
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Well armed citizens and law enforcers are typically allies. Both help keep the peace. Criminals who use guns are not deterred by gun control laws. However, criminals are most definitely deterred by law abiding gun owners, concealed carriers, and cops.


51 posted on 08/23/2014 3:33:19 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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Where are all of these cops getting shot?

You’d think there would be a news story or two about it.


52 posted on 08/23/2014 3:53:10 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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The Liberal Gun Quandary.


53 posted on 08/23/2014 3:58:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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INVITING MS-13 here in DROVES from El Salvador doesn’t help much when it comes to stemming gun violence as they seem to find guns in countries that have some of the strongest gun control laws in the country.


55 posted on 08/23/2014 4:05:56 AM PDT by BobL
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Bunkum.


56 posted on 08/23/2014 4:07:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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Everyone commenting on militarized cops in this thread, needs to read the cops section in this one:

#Ferguson – when [a-holes] collide (epic screed with strong language)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3195928/posts

This is perhaps the best commentary I’ve yet seen on Ferguson.


58 posted on 08/23/2014 4:10:42 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Michael A. Cohen must have 5lbs of sand in his mangina.


61 posted on 08/23/2014 4:22:10 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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these types of events are as rare as a “meteor strike” for most communities

Only two times to be exact......1986 which involved a LEO and his department issued auto and the one listed above.....

65 posted on 08/23/2014 4:43:37 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Is there such a thing as a vegan zombie?)
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Bull.

The reason is the damp fool in Washington before the current menace went overboard in responding COSMETICALLY to the continuing Muslim threat against Civilization by converting police departments into paramilitary barracks. He failed to address the Real Problem in America-our continuing tolerance of Muslims and ISLAM right HERE.

The current Traitor and Menace in Washington has expanded upon this situation to provide for a possible repeat of Lexington and Concord against his thievery of citizen
property and rights by the massive intrusive police state he and his three predecessors helped create.


66 posted on 08/23/2014 4:45:23 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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While the liberal notion of America’s “gun culture”, comprised mostly of honest citizens carrying guns, actually is lowering the crime rate, Dear Leader’s immigration policy has rolled out the welcome mat for Mexican cartels and Islamic terror groups.


74 posted on 08/23/2014 6:32:35 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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