True. I don't know what it is with SNL alumni from the 80s, but more and more of them are moving rightward. Just think, if Al Freakin had been on SNL in the 80s instead of the 70s and 90s, he might be on our side now. Yikes.
>> "The democrats have changed" is a popular meme among people abandoning that party, but the simple truth is they have not changed very much at all, they've gotten only slightly worse over the last few decades.Ronald Reagan saw the light after being a labor democrat as late as 1948 when he cut an ad for Hubert Humphrey for US Senate and trashed the GOP controlled 80th Congress. He often said the democrat party left him (It changed so much from 1948 to 1962, when he officially switched parties? No sir, it did not.) but that was just a line. In a least one candid moment he admitted he was "part of the problem back then". <<
Yeah, I never buy the "I didn't leave the RATs, they left me" line or the history revisionism about how the RATs "used to be" the "conservative" party and were "honorable and patriotic" until recent years. Certainly at the national level, the RAT party has been totally controlled by rabid socialists since at least the FDR era. The last "conservative" RAT president (Cleveland) was in power well over a century ago.
Regarding Reagan, I think he admitted once that he had been a "bleeding heart liberal" in the 1940s who "bled for every leftist cause".
Anyway, "I didn't leave the RATs, they left me", is a nice soundbite but I don't think it convinces any other RATs that "their party has left them". The RATs actually try the reverse with the "Republicans used to be honorable and decent until they changed and were taken over by teabaggers... Obama is basically an Einsenhower era Republican" BS, and nobody buys the reverse propaganda that "today's Dems are like 1950s Republicans" either.
>> He's a patriot who's upset by democrat foreign policy? What did he say when Carter gave away the Panama canal? What did he say when Clinton let Osama get away and sent forces into Kosovo to get his johnson off the front page? He thinks democrats only recently started not caring about the poor? Hahahahhaha. <<
Zig Zag Zell used this sort of talking point when he saw the writing on the wall and decided to endorse Bush. "The Dems changed and started supporting radical leftist policies so I'm endorsing the GOP" It wasn't true then, either. The RAT party had always been totally supportive of abortion since it was legalized in the 70s and McGovern was about as far-left as it gets but Zig Zag didn't endorse Nixon in 1972. They didn't "change" their views -- Zig Zag changed his when his "great grandchildren" were born and he "discovered" he was pro-life. And now I guess Michelle Nunn must be an "honorable and patriotic, old fashioned conservative Democrat" according to his logic, since he's endorsing her. Nope. Again, the only person who "changed their views" was Zig Zag.
>> I think that's what the issue is, Piscopo (and probably his parents), like so many Americans, has the political intelligence of a turnip and it's taken a President THIS horrible to make him start growing a few extra brain cells, forgive me if that's an arrogant pronouncement. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's wised up enough to support Republicans this year (that puts him ahead of some here who seem to want Harry Reid to increase his Senate majority), but by the sound of it he has a long way to go to enlightenment, I hope he continues the journey. <<
I agree. If he's moving rightward, I welcome it, and I hope he'll be totally in our camp eventually. But for now, I take it with a grain of salt.
“The democrats have changed” is a popular meme among people abandoning that party, but the simple truth is they have not changed very much at all, they’ve gotten only slightly worse over the last few decades.Ronald Reagan saw the light after being a labor democrat as late as 1948....”
People seem to forget - or have never been taught, more likely - that FDR’s first VP, Henry Wallace, was an OPEN socialist, made no bones about it. And FDR often expressed a lot of admiration for the Soviet Union and its policies.
Further back, Woodrow Wilson was a “proud Progressive” as well.
It’s not so much that they “changed” as much as it is they just let the more radical elements get into full control.
When I was growing up in Philly, most of the folks were Democrats there; they sure as hell weren’t communist or socialist; most of them were WWII and Korean War vets. But they had no clue who they were really voting for.
Reagan won those same people over in two landslides. Pretty sure Nixon did too.
Different times, with different people. This truly ISN’T grandma’s Democrat party anymore.
As for Piscopo and others “moving rightward”... well, anything less than full blown communist will look “right” these days...