Posted on 08/15/2014 11:59:26 AM PDT by aimhigh
As the European Dream continues its slow descent into dystopic nightmare, leaving millions of economically disenfranchised Europeans languishing in the gutter of misery, public anger is growing. Nowhere is this more evident than in austerity-ridden Spain, where political protests have been a constant thorn in the side of the countrys knee-jerk authoritarian government.
Yesterday that government hit back with a declaration that evoked chilling echoes of Spains not-so-distant past. In response to a query by a member of parliament, the Ministry of Interior announced that during a public demonstration the police can confiscate any filming device if officers have reason to believe that it could be used to commit an illegal act.
That illegal act, one assumes, is the filming of the police as they execute their duties. Thats right: Spain could soon become the first supposedly democratic nation to outlaw the filming of police officers. It is one of a raft of new offenses included in the decidedly Orwellian-termed Citizens Security law, more popularly known as the Gag Law (Ley Mordaza). The new law proposes fines of up to 30,000 for using slogans against the country, the King or State, and up to 600,000 for organizing unauthorized street protests.
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Sounds like the US has beaten Spain to that punch.
Failing to learn from history demands that you repeat it’s errors..
AND worse... YOU DESERVE IT!..
Just like here in the US, they only needed that small window of so-called “freedom” to usher in acceptance of sodomy, etc. Now that’s been done, they can begin to reel in the real freedom.
I would prefer that police not interfere with such filming but Spain also has a very ugly history of an elected Marxist government sending its "Republican" army out to murder seminarians and priests and rape and murder nuns. It took Franco several years to kill those responsible and restore civilization to Spain, King Juan Carlos has done everything he can to be fashionable and reject the heritage of Franco to Spain's great detriment.
Yes, Juan Carlos seems to have forgotten that Franco (posthumously) restored him to the throne after Reds threw out his grandfather (and removed the monarchy from the Republic;s new flag).
Exactly. Spain was much better of under Franco.
Democracy is doing to the US what is has done to Europe.
Allowing people to vote themselves more goodies at the expense of others.
It never works over the long run. Never has. Never will.
Just look at ancient Rome.
Isn’t Spain’s government Socialist?
What news of Generalissimo Francisco Franco?
This just in: “Francisco Franco is still dead!!’’.
Franco was a monarchist at heart.
It was either him or the Communists.
How do your friends feel about the current situation in Spain?
Haven’t seen them in a while. Got to know them when I was working in New York back in the ‘80’s’’. They were two brothers who were plumbers. They told me in 1938 they left Spain with their parents to live with an uncle in Argentina.After WW2 the two of them came to NYC.
I thought the problem was that the people can’t vote themselves our from the EU and the banks that are bleeding them dry.
As a Catholic, I would be the first to say that the Church's worst enemies have usually been found among those tepid souls, often middle class and more often upper middle and upper class who crave the acceptance and approval of secular humanist opinion leaders above all else and sell their Faith for such a mess of pottage. They almost always act inadvertently, being too busy whoring after the approval of their enemies to even bother to understand their Faith. Being really Catholic is just too much trouble. Actually practicing Catholicism far more so.
Such people pave the way for socialists, communists, Spanish "Republicans" and other militant atheists to come to power. When the seminarians and priests are murdered and the nuns are raped and murdered, such people bleat: Well, I never meant for THAT to happen! But they enabled it just the same.
A river of Spanish "Republican," communist, socialist and anarchist blood, mingled with a lesser quantity of Catholic blood was necessary to forcibly remove the former group of four tyrant fraternities from power. Franco had the backbone to make that happen and to vow in about 1939 that so long as he drew breath, Spain would never suffer from political movements again. He made that stick. He was the greatest Spaniard patriot of the last century and Reds everywhere despise his memory for it.
Your acquaintances or those like them in Spain who claim Catholicism while rejecting Franco are foolish and thoughtless people, ungrateful for what liberty Spain still enjoys because of Franco.
Your "Catholic" plumber friends left Spain in 1938 and never returned apparently, having stayed in Argentina through WWII and then moved to NYC.
If they are so Catholic, why wouldn't they return to Franco's quite Catholic Spain?
Why did their family leave when the Spanish Civil War was so close to a Catholic victory?
If they left Spain in 1938 and never returned, then they never lived under Franco, so what makes them experts?
Was theirs a leftist family that saw the handwriting on the wall and got out while the getting was good? Given that they fled Spain 75 years ago, it would be surprising if they are still alive. If they are alive and got out of Spain while the getting was good, it is little surprise that they are scrawling their opposition to Franco on random outhouse walls with a grease pencil.
The war started in July 1936. My in-laws lived there for decades, leaving in the 1960s for economic, not political reasons. They understood what Franco saved them from; their families in Spain through the 1960s were spared the mess occurring elsewhere in Europe and the US.
By 1938, the writing was on the wall for the communists - they had lost the north completely, and were slowly losing ground in the east. Nobody believed in 1938 that Franco wouldn’t win; to the end the communists’ only hope was that the western allies would intervene...
There is a book including such an escape by the very prominent Reichmann family. The senior Mr. Reichmann was from Hungary and had created an egg cartel among all the egg farmers in Central Europe. His wife was from Germany and a member of the Gestetner office machine family. Tey lost at least one son to the Holocaust when he was summarily shot for receiving by mail some chocolate from his mother. The family fled Europe through Spain to Spanish Morocco where they stayed to the end of WWII expending a large amount of money to free fellow Jews and facilitate their escape through Spain. The Reichmanns went to Montreal to live, created a great construction company Olympia and York and made great success by delivering their buildings earlier than agreed, better quality than agreed and for less money than agreed. I am sorry that I do not remember the name of the book. It was written by an apparently non-political business reporter for the Toronto newspaper. There are probably thousands of untold similar stories of those who escaped through Franco Spain.
The treatment of Franco's memory in the West has been a rank disgrace and injustice.
“Unlike in most other Western nations, Spanish homeowners borrow under a draconian law whereby the bank, after the eviction, saddles ex-homeowners with the debt for life.”
Funny, NOTHING about a gun being held to their heads as they sign the loan documents...
Given the LEFTISTS that always seem to emerge in Spanish speaking countries, I can’t really blame Spain for doing what’s necessary to control them.
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