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Ebola Virus in West Africa Is New Strain, Scientists Say
NBC News/AP ^ | 4/16/2014 | Unattributed

Posted on 08/11/2014 11:23:52 AM PDT by mojito

The Ebola virus that has killed scores of people in Guinea this year is a new strain — evidence that the disease did not spread there from outbreaks in some other African nations, scientists report.

"The source of the virus is still not known," but it was not imported from nearby countries, said Dr. Stephan Gunther of the Bernhard Nocht Institute for Tropical Medicine in Hamburg, Germany.

He led an international team of researchers who studied the genetics of the virus and reported results online Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ebola; guinea; stephangunther
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Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

61 posted on 08/11/2014 8:17:44 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: CharlotteVRWC

“Weaponized. Version?”

Yes, released in West Africa then brought into US by their agent (Obama).

Plausible deniability.


62 posted on 08/11/2014 9:04:28 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Wrong. A mutation almost always causes death to the mutated cell.


63 posted on 08/11/2014 9:06:07 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Alter Kaker
Mutations do not support the Theory of Evolution

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/mutations.html

64 posted on 08/11/2014 9:09:03 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Alter Kaker

The Discovery Institute has some excellent articles that explains why mutations can’t generate new, complex forms.

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012/06/can_random_muta061221.html


65 posted on 08/11/2014 9:14:25 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: SVTCobra03
Wrong. A mutation almost always causes death to the mutated cell.

Maybe, but obviously that's not always the case -- witness the obvious evolutionary success of this new strain of ebola.

66 posted on 08/11/2014 9:35:37 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
"is that it is not infectious until symptoms are showing"

That is not exactly true. British Doctor: 'Shocking' How Healthy African Ebola Patients Look Before Death

Seemingly "healthy people" can spread the disease.

67 posted on 08/11/2014 10:21:36 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: allendale
Ebola will remain an endemic disease largely confined to Africa as long as the transmission occurs by direct contact with infected fluids

Hate to tell you but that idea has already flown the coop.

The Nigerian nurse that worked on the diplomat, passed Ebola on to a different patient while not being symptomatic.

This thing is not the old Ebola.

68 posted on 08/12/2014 6:25:36 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: jpsb

Yes and no. It is correct that external signs of the disease often don’t occur too obviously before death, but while they might *look* healthy, they do not in any way *feel* or *act* healthy. And again, they feel awful for about five days, then they are incapacitated for another five before dying.

Fever, Severe headache, Joint and muscle aches, Chills and Weakness are initial symptoms. Over time, symptoms become increasingly severe and may include:

Nausea and vomiting
Diarrhea (may be bloody)
Red eyes
Raised rash
Chest pain and cough
Stomach pain
Severe weight loss
Bleeding, usually from the eyes, and bruising (people near death may bleed from other orifices, such as ears, nose and rectum)
Internal bleeding

With all of this, externally the doctor may be right, that they “look okay”. But it should be abundantly clear, even to laymen, that they are extremely sick.


69 posted on 08/12/2014 7:48:02 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
From the link I posted; quoting Dr Johnson

"What shocking is how healthy the patients look before they die and how quickly they decline."

"A number of the Ebola patients I've seen look quite fit and healthy and can be walking around until shortly before their deaths."

70 posted on 08/12/2014 8:32:01 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: mojito

This is number six. Each strain has been a new one.


71 posted on 08/12/2014 8:44:35 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: garjog
The Discovery Institute

LOL. Thoroughly discredited embarrassment of an organization. Let me know when they publish a peer reviewed paper on.... anything.

72 posted on 08/12/2014 4:08:21 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: SVTCobra03
Mutations do not support the Theory of Evolution

You are aware that this article is about a mutated strain of ebola, right? That's evolution.

73 posted on 08/12/2014 4:11:07 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: jpsb

Again, this is external appearance. The same could be said for somebody with many severe diseases. I think the doctor just had a poor choice of words.


74 posted on 08/12/2014 4:13:39 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: steve86

Actually the “ Hot Zone” was nonfiction.


75 posted on 08/12/2014 4:29:04 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: exDemMom

But that’s no fun. Conspiracies are much more fun.


76 posted on 08/12/2014 4:35:03 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Alter Kaker

“The Discovery Institute
LOL. Thoroughly discredited “

I am not out laughing out laud because I have actually read their stuff.

The Discovery Institute is composed of Ph Ds with long lists of publications.

Anyone with an open mind can check it out. Great organization really.

http://www.discovery.org/a/18301


77 posted on 08/12/2014 11:22:45 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: garjog
The Discovery Institute is composed of Ph Ds with long lists of publications.

I'm sure the Scientologists have a "think tank" that could make the same claim. They're still a discredited joke -- they don't do actual research, they've been cut off by the Templeton Foundation and most of their other (credible) funders from being frauds, and when their claims came before a federal judge they were laughed out of court.

78 posted on 08/13/2014 4:31:48 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Anyone still following this thread may want to check out Stephen Myers’ book Darwin’s Doubt.

The last three chapters cover alternatives to neo Darwinism that are being proposed by proponents of naturalist evolution troubled by problems with current theories. Really fascinating.

Watch video here by Cambridge PhD Science historian Myers. http://www.darwinsdoubt.com


79 posted on 08/13/2014 5:44:47 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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