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President Who Pulled U.S. Troops Out of Iraq Says Idea He Pulled Troops Out of Iraq is "Bogus"
Townhall.com ^ | August 11, 2014 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 08/11/2014 7:46:21 AM PDT by Kaslin

In 2008 then Senator Obama campaigned on the promise of ending the war in Iraq and bringing combat troops home. In 2012, Obama touted that promise as complete (one of the only campaign promises he actually kept) and critics warned leaving Iraq without a residual U.S. force would result in a power vacuum and vulnerable state. Now as the country falls apart and the radical Islamic State army continues its march unchallenged in Iraq, Obama is claiming he wasn't the one who made the decision to pull U.S. combat troops out of the country and that claims to the contrary are "bogus and wrong."

Q Mr. President, do you have any second thoughts about pulling all ground troops out of Iraq? And does it give you pause as the U.S. -- is it doing the same thing in Afghanistan?

THE PRESIDENT: What I just find interesting is the degree to which this issue keeps on coming up, as if this was my decision. Under the previous administration, we had turned over the country to a sovereign, democratically elected Iraqi government. In order for us to maintain troops in Iraq, we needed the invitation of the Iraqi government and we needed assurances that our personnel would be immune from prosecution if, for example, they were protecting themselves and ended up getting in a firefight with Iraqis, that they wouldn’t be hauled before an Iraqi judicial system.

And the Iraqi government, based on its political considerations, in part because Iraqis were tired of a U.S. occupation, declined to provide us those assurances. And on that basis, we left. We had offered to leave additional troops. So when you hear people say, do you regret, Mr. President, not leaving more troops, that presupposes that I would have overridden this sovereign government that we had turned the keys back over to and said, you know what, you’re democratic, you’re sovereign, except if I decide that it’s good for you to keep 10,000 or 15,000 or 25,000 Marines in your country, you don’t have a choice -- which would have kind of run contrary to the entire argument we were making about turning over the country back to Iraqis, an argument not just made by me, but made by the previous administration.

So let’s just be clear: The reason that we did not have a follow-on force in Iraq was because the Iraqis were -- a majority of Iraqis did not want U.S. troops there, and politically they could not pass the kind of laws that would be required to protect our troops in Iraq.

Having said all that, if in fact the Iraqi government behaved the way it did over the last five, six years, where it failed to pass legislation that would reincorporate Sunnis and give them a sense of ownership; if it had targeted certain Sunni leaders and jailed them; if it had alienated some of the Sunni tribes that we had brought back in during the so-called Awakening that helped us turn the tide in 2006 -- if they had done all those things and we had had troops there, the country wouldn’t be holding together either. The only difference would be we’d have a bunch of troops on the ground that would be vulnerable. And however many troops we had, we would have to now be reinforcing, I’d have to be protecting them, and we’d have a much bigger job. And probably, we would end up having to go up again in terms of the number of grounds troops to make sure that those forces were not vulnerable.

So that entire analysis is bogus and is wrong. But it gets frequently peddled around here by folks who oftentimes are trying to defend previous policies that they themselves made.

Right, pulling all U.S. troops from Iraq had nothing to do with Obama's political aspirations and promises. Pretty incredible. On the issue of Obama claiming the Iraqi's and Maliki "not wanting U.S. troops there," and "wouldn't agree to a status of forces agreement," Obama hardly tried to get an agreement done in the first place. Obama took the easy way out on the agreement in order to fulfill a campaign promise and to satisfy his base.

Here's a flashback from 2010, when Obama took credit for the troop pull-out in Iraq.

Weird.. He took credit for that decision in an Oval Office address in 2010. pic.twitter.com/L5v5Z40G4F — S.M (@redsteeze) August 9, 2014

But, the idea that Obama had anything to do with the troop pullout is totally bogus right?
And another from 2011:

Obama today: "As if this was my decision." Obama in Oct 2011: pic.twitter.com/fnTQSKxt7N A promise he kept, and he's running from it? #OwnIt — Ron Fournier (@ron_fournier) August 9, 2014


You get the point.

President Obama wants to be responsible for what makes him look good in a short term moment and conveniently shoves off the bad and real decision making on everything and everyone else.


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KEYWORDS: barack0bama; bho44; bhogwot; denial; iraq; iraqwar; is; isis; isisiraq; kurdistan; obamaforeignpolicy; obamairaq; timetable; troopwithdrawal; yazidi; yazidis
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To: Kaslin; F15Eagle; FlingWingFlyer; ConorMacNessa; Jim Robinson; All

1.) After nearly 6 years of the Obama Military Strategy of CUT AND RUN, which of our current or former Allies have benefited the most?

2.) Which of our enemies have been harmed the most?

3.) Should Obama’s CUT AND RUN Military Strategy continue to be taught at West Point, Annapolis and Colorado Springs?


41 posted on 08/11/2014 8:12:16 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

You are correct


42 posted on 08/11/2014 8:13:30 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

There’s not a smidgen of proof that Obama was involved with any decisions made concerning Iraq. Not.


43 posted on 08/11/2014 8:15:40 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Graewoulf
Great questions, Graewoulf.
1) Those that benefited most are (imho) isis, iran, qatar and saudi royals.
2) Although NATO is not supposed to be the enemy ... NATO has been harmed the most with more probably coming.
3) Can't be certain one can call it CUT AND RUN is one is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Most call it Treason.
44 posted on 08/11/2014 8:18:14 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Kaslin

Mac daddy really, really, really needs to stay away from the nose candy.


45 posted on 08/11/2014 8:20:11 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: no-to-illegals

Okay, then how about “ATTACK AND SCAT?”

Or, “WHACK-A-MOLE?”


46 posted on 08/11/2014 8:21:43 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Col Frank Slade

Just another phony scandal the Republicans are trying to saddle the Current Occupant with....


47 posted on 08/11/2014 8:21:47 AM PDT by alloysteel (Most people become who they promised they would never be.)
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To: Kaslin

I find interesting his assertion that ISIS would still be controlling large portions of Iraq if the US troops were still there. What? Obama slips that in to make it sound like an internal Iraq squabble is what we are seeing. No - what we are seeing is an invasion from outside.


48 posted on 08/11/2014 8:21:58 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Kaslin

49 posted on 08/11/2014 8:22:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Kaslin

Nobody except the 93% race that voted for this idiot is going to believe this.....


50 posted on 08/11/2014 8:24:14 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Graewoulf

I like Whack, Whack, Whack ... about all that is left to ensue America and our Allies survive, regrettably. zer0 and Bo must be doing things unspeakable for America and our Allies to be in this mess.


51 posted on 08/11/2014 8:25:27 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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52 posted on 08/11/2014 8:25:58 AM PDT by SJackson (incompetent and feckless..the story of the Obama presidency. No hand on the f***ing tiller, Hillary)
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To: Kaslin

The troops extracted themselves and Bammy found out about it by watching CNN.


53 posted on 08/11/2014 8:26:30 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: plain talk

Exactly, because this terrorist group was started in Syria.


54 posted on 08/11/2014 8:27:13 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: tet68

POS-in-Chief


55 posted on 08/11/2014 8:27:23 AM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: Paladin2

Yeah that must have been it.


56 posted on 08/11/2014 8:28:25 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
From David Horowitz’s new book...“Take No Prisoners: The Battle Plan for Defeating the Left”

Barack Obama deliberately set out to lose the war in Iraq, and he did. He defied the advice of his joint chiefs of staff to secure America’s formidable military presence and keep 20,000 troops in country, and left Iraq to its own devices and the tender mercies of Iran. In doing so, he betrayed every American and Iraqi who gave his life to create a free Iraq and keep it out of the clutches of the terrorists.

Iraq is now a war zone dominated by the terrorist forces of the Islamic State, whose rise Obama’s policies fostered. Both his secretaries of state praised the animal Bashar Assad as a “reformer” and a man of “peace,” helping him to thwart his domestic opposition. The Islamic State was born out of the Syrian chaos that ensued.

57 posted on 08/11/2014 8:30:47 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Kaslin

Who are you gonna Believe?

Obama?

Or your ACTUAL MEMORY of the event?


58 posted on 08/11/2014 8:31:06 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Obama is well on his way to “Fundamentally transforming the United States of America,” thanks in large part to “Blank Check” Boehner.


59 posted on 08/11/2014 8:31:40 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Servant of the Cross; All

After nearly 6 years of observing B. Hussein’s ACTIONS, which choice (IYHO), as listed below, best describes Obama?

A.) “Psychopatic personality,

1.) a person characterized by:
* emotional instability,
* lack of sound judgement,
* perverse and impulsive (often criminal) behavior,
* inability to learn from experience,
* amoral and asocial feelings,
* and other serious personality defects:
* he may or may not have psychotic attacks or symptoms.”

B.) “Asocial,

implies:
* complete indifference to the interests, welfare, etc. of society,
* and connotes abnormal or irresponsible self-centeredness - - -.”

Note: Quotes are from Webster’s Dictionary.


60 posted on 08/11/2014 8:34:51 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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