The Current FReepathon Pays For The Current Quarter's Expenses?
Coming to a national health system near you.
You can’t waste money on smokers if you’re going to provide sex-changes or breast implants for everyone who needs them. Smoking is an out-of-fashion lifestyle choice.
“Not seeing patients that are still smoking”. That actually makes sense to me. If you’re not trying to help yourself. It’s like the old joke...”Doc...It hurts when I do this. Don’t do that”.
Isn't it great that the democratts took away our healthcare system and gave us one just like this one? In fact ours is even better than the British NHS.
Instead of making medical decisions with our doctors (like before), the IRS now makes our decisions for us and our doctors, (Excluding our politicians of course-they exempted themselves from this policy).
25% of Americans smoke, I was once one and my wife still is, and this will happen here, if obamacare isn't ripped out by the roots.
Obamacare has been and will continue to be a total disaster, but the one doesn't care, it will lead the USA further down the socialist path.
I wonder if they are going to refuse to treat rock climbers?
Bump.
Smoking doesn’t always kill. I get a chuckle when reading about the latest “oldest person alive” story and they elder attributing their longevity to having a shot of whiskey and smoking every day.
Should healthcare be denied to the percentage that won’t suffer any ill effects from smoking?
Certainly not, especially when health insurance is mandatory.
The article points out that due to taxes on tobacco specifically for health coverage and increased insurance rates because of smoking, that smokers pay double for healthcare and cost 22% less in lifetime care costs over healthy people!
The argument for government healthcare was that everyone is entitled to healthcare. Now we find that this is not true – only the politically sanctioned are entitled – but the politically incorrect are not entitled even if they do pay twice as much and cost 22% less.
Once we classify healthcare based on political correctness, everything comes into play: Gay, Straight, Jewish, Muslim, White, Black, Male, Female, etc.
We cannot have these distinctions when it comes to mandatory universal healthcare.
The words “mandatory” and “universal” should also apply to being treated, not just who has to pay.
This was a real case that happened about 13 years ago in Baltimore. was used by "advocates" to try and say that the government wasn't spending enough money on the kid, because rather than spend their money on the antirejection drugs dee momma done spent it on recreation chemicals killing the first transplant, and the kid didn't take the anti-rejection drugs killing the second transplant. Fortunately the kid died before they could waste a third transplant on him.
First liver transplants cost about $250,000 each (taxpayer dollars wasted). Second and more important livers don't grow on trees. This was two other people who died because they didn't get livers that were wasted on this natural born 0bama supporter.
Absolutely! NHS works great for healthy people......not so much for people who actually need health care.
“Despite the best endeavours of the anti smoking lobby, what is little known is that the only objective research done into the lifetime costs of treating smokers compared to other lifestyles was completed in 2008 by the Dutch Health Ministry.
The results calculated by actuaries found the lifetime cost from the age of twenty was the following:
Healthy: €281,000
Obese: €250,000
Smokers: €220,000
Yes, smokes are 22 percent cheaper to treat throughout their lifetime, mainly from premature mortality.”
I was told this back in the 1990s, and it is because smokers tend to DIE FAST, relatively speaking, when compared to people that live an extra 15 or so years, so they need less treatment for those years, and Alzheimer’s is much less frequent in smokers.
Also, this is only HALF OF THE STORY - the other half is Social Security type payments...if you live that extra 10 or 15 years, it gets VERY EXPENSIVE for the government to take care of you.
Dirty little secrets that help explain why Social Security and Medicare are still going broke, even after Reagan “fixed them” in 1986 by raising the taxes.
Now, if you’re an employer, it’s a bit different. If you can keep people healthy until they turn 65, then they become the government’s problem, not yours, as Medicare will have to pay the way - so big financial incentive for employers to stop people from smoking.
The Current FReepathon Pays For The Current Quarter's Expenses?
If a government can tell you what meds, what doctors, and where to buy the meds, what test and how often the test are done. You have arrived at government controlled health care similar to the Brits 1 provider system.
We are in that boat. Medicare and Tricare Life (Retired Military over 65). And it SUCKS big time!
It does not cover the costly things, even with a co-pay system like eye glasses or hearing aids which most people over 60 need. I’ve been pricing hearing aids, All are now digital, $3,000-6,0000, they are not rechargeable, and those tiny 1 -2 day batteries are quite expensive.
And I’ll probably have to purchase a separate insurance policy for the cleaning and repair of them. As that is not covered either. I don’t mind a reasonable co-pay, but at my age having to foot the entire bill really bites big into my retirement money. I thought my yearly $500, glasses were expensive enough ( I wear special lenses that don’t come cheap), this is many thousands worse on my retirement.
Of course sodomites engage in behavior that is exempt from exclusion, even if they smoke, because they are the ones who now make all the rules and are of a class far above any other.
Does anyone doubt that sodomites now rule over western civilization?
The preponderance of evidence is overwhelming.
Exactly. First smokers, then people who are overweight (all they have to do is stop eating and exercise!), then people who do physical sports (if you didn’t play rugby, you wouldn’t have broken your leg!).
It will go on and on until the only people being treated are the passive sheep who eat and do exactly what the government says.
What about pot smokers?
Socialized Medicine = Everything you do becomes the business of The State.
“We try to avoid intervention and, in around 80 percent of cases, a smoker’s condition will improve just simply by stopping smoking and smoking other lifestyle changes.”
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Well, many have tried to quit smoking, but I think the average smoker will be hard pressed to carry through with “smoking other lifestyle changes”. What!?
Don’t forget male queers have the shortest average lifespan; some 20 years shorter than the average smoker. What about alcohol?
This is what happens when you allow others control over your life.
This refers to vascular surgery, not medical treatment in general.