The Current FReepathon Pays For The Current Quarter's Expenses?
Posted on 08/11/2014 3:20:34 AM PDT by markomalley
This was a real case that happened about 13 years ago in Baltimore. was used by "advocates" to try and say that the government wasn't spending enough money on the kid, because rather than spend their money on the antirejection drugs dee momma done spent it on recreation chemicals killing the first transplant, and the kid didn't take the anti-rejection drugs killing the second transplant. Fortunately the kid died before they could waste a third transplant on him.
First liver transplants cost about $250,000 each (taxpayer dollars wasted). Second and more important livers don't grow on trees. This was two other people who died because they didn't get livers that were wasted on this natural born 0bama supporter.
Absolutely! NHS works great for healthy people......not so much for people who actually need health care.
“Despite the best endeavours of the anti smoking lobby, what is little known is that the only objective research done into the lifetime costs of treating smokers compared to other lifestyles was completed in 2008 by the Dutch Health Ministry.
The results calculated by actuaries found the lifetime cost from the age of twenty was the following:
Healthy: €281,000
Obese: €250,000
Smokers: €220,000
Yes, smokes are 22 percent cheaper to treat throughout their lifetime, mainly from premature mortality.”
I was told this back in the 1990s, and it is because smokers tend to DIE FAST, relatively speaking, when compared to people that live an extra 15 or so years, so they need less treatment for those years, and Alzheimer’s is much less frequent in smokers.
Also, this is only HALF OF THE STORY - the other half is Social Security type payments...if you live that extra 10 or 15 years, it gets VERY EXPENSIVE for the government to take care of you.
Dirty little secrets that help explain why Social Security and Medicare are still going broke, even after Reagan “fixed them” in 1986 by raising the taxes.
Now, if you’re an employer, it’s a bit different. If you can keep people healthy until they turn 65, then they become the government’s problem, not yours, as Medicare will have to pay the way - so big financial incentive for employers to stop people from smoking.
The Current FReepathon Pays For The Current Quarter's Expenses?
If a government can tell you what meds, what doctors, and where to buy the meds, what test and how often the test are done. You have arrived at government controlled health care similar to the Brits 1 provider system.
We are in that boat. Medicare and Tricare Life (Retired Military over 65). And it SUCKS big time!
It does not cover the costly things, even with a co-pay system like eye glasses or hearing aids which most people over 60 need. I’ve been pricing hearing aids, All are now digital, $3,000-6,0000, they are not rechargeable, and those tiny 1 -2 day batteries are quite expensive.
And I’ll probably have to purchase a separate insurance policy for the cleaning and repair of them. As that is not covered either. I don’t mind a reasonable co-pay, but at my age having to foot the entire bill really bites big into my retirement money. I thought my yearly $500, glasses were expensive enough ( I wear special lenses that don’t come cheap), this is many thousands worse on my retirement.
Mr. B, as always an interesting point. But as the Death Panel convenes to deny Tiny Tim an appendectomy, how do you think they should handle an HIV 'victim' who smokes? A transgendered illegal alien HIV 'victim' on methamphetamines? Please forward a politically correct answer immediately.
Dr. Zahid Raza? Do you think this Worthy Oriental Medical Gentleman will also be denying treatment to Scotsmen who have the wee uisgebaugh taken? I am willing to bet my burkha that he is not denying treatment to cousin-polygamous Achmed's 14th child with genetic birth defects. (This sort of case is rapidly burning up National Health's budget all over Britain.)
Ah well, Kipling did call it "The White Man's Burden," did he not?
Gastric by pass, literately saved my Son In Law’s life. He was pushing 400 lbs, he is a big man, big bones, and should weigh 200 lbs. He had heart trouble, diabetes, back and knee issues. Since his surgery, he had the type that let you lose slower so plastic surgery would not be needed for the folds.
He is now down to the 200 lbs, and his health has improved vastly, now no more insulin shots, knees won’t need surgery, Back issues gone, and his BP is normal once more so he is only on a maintenance dose for that. Instead of taking 30 pills a day he is down to 7, and working them down to a basic 3.
Of course sodomites engage in behavior that is exempt from exclusion, even if they smoke, because they are the ones who now make all the rules and are of a class far above any other.
Does anyone doubt that sodomites now rule over western civilization?
The preponderance of evidence is overwhelming.
Is smoking legal there?
Do they still treat drug overdoses?
How about trampoline accidents?
Exactly. First smokers, then people who are overweight (all they have to do is stop eating and exercise!), then people who do physical sports (if you didn’t play rugby, you wouldn’t have broken your leg!).
It will go on and on until the only people being treated are the passive sheep who eat and do exactly what the government says.
“I can agree with not paying for treatment for smokers suffering from smoking related diseases using public money”
So of course you agree that all they taxes they have paid into the system should be refunded, plus interest. Right?
Thanks, (it’s my job).
No why should I agree on that? It certainly is NOT a logical extension of not paying for self destructive behaviors from a shared risk pool. BTW I don't think AIDS treatment should be paid for by my tax dollars either.
Interesting. You support thievery.
you have allowed your entire thinking on this to be co opted by the liberal template. IE…once it's your TAX dollars, you think you should be able to deny treatment. You are making two astonishing mistakes. First, you are missing the big point that once we have a government system, it pits citizens against other citizens, which you have so dutifully demonstrated. Second, wait until the exemption gores YOUR ass. Then we'll see what you think.
It has become easy to know what any leftist would do in those situations.
Just determine what would be mis offensive to God and that’s what they’ll choose.
It will go on and on until the only people being treated are the passive sheep who eat and do exactly what the government says.
ZACKLY, and sadly, frighteningly - too many Freepers have fallen right into that trap.
What about pot smokers?
Tell me, do you think AIDS treatment should be paid for with public funds?
Socialized Medicine = Everything you do becomes the business of The State.
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