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1 posted on 08/04/2014 12:25:17 PM PDT by Lorianne
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But African-Americans and Hispanics were especially affected.
Unexpected!
2 posted on 08/04/2014 12:26:57 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Is there any meaningful difference between a functional illiterate with a high school diploma and a functional illiterate without a high school diploma?
3 posted on 08/04/2014 12:27:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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Do they want to turn them into day care with beds in rooms for them to have sex and stuff?


4 posted on 08/04/2014 12:27:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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It’s a good thing they are dropping out. Some students are not qualified to be in college. College should challenge only those with higher IQ’s. If you can’t handle it, get out, your wasting money and space.


5 posted on 08/04/2014 12:29:59 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%S?)
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“”There was an expectation that this was going to be good for students, but the evidence from our analyses suggests that many students ended up dropping out when school was made harder for them,” he added. “

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Duh !!!!!!!!!!

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6 posted on 08/04/2014 12:30:09 PM PDT by Mears (thanks !)
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Don’t tell me. Math and science hurts the young skulls full of much “self-esteem”. They find out that they aren’t as bright as they think they are.


7 posted on 08/04/2014 12:31:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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I have often thought public schools should concentrate more on life skills like managing finances, skilled trades, and such rather than trying to make every student engineering bound.


8 posted on 08/04/2014 12:31:45 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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9 posted on 08/04/2014 12:32:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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They have SUDDENLY made it harder to get through the school year. These “students” have been coasting since the first grade, getting used to a “dumbed down” course of requirements.
Now suddenly, everything is harder, strange and in too many cases icomphrehensible. You have the ingredients for instant discouragement, failure, resentment and a growing dropout rate.
The ONLY way to solve this problem is a return to the methods of the past, where the student was introduced to (pardon the word) REQUIREMENTS at the very beginning of their scholastic life. This,passe system, is what made American schools the envy of the world, and thus, made the United States what is once was.


11 posted on 08/04/2014 12:37:09 PM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( N.Y. TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views.")
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The problem isn’t math and science.
The problem is that they should offer separate academic, business and vocational paths like they once did. Not everyone needs or even wants to go to college, but there is no other path. They should even put computer programming into the vocational path.


12 posted on 08/04/2014 12:37:16 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
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It is fundamentally ridiculous to impose these so called standards on the students who are struggling with the previous so called standards that didn’t work either.

MOST people will NEVER need to know most of the science and math that the new standards require. They DO need to know how to read a P and L statement and balance a check book and to understand the difference between price and cost.

Not only are the standards illogical, the very instructional materials that is designed for teaching to the new standard is incomprehensible (even to those of us who are knowledgeable in math and science).

I DO believe in standards but what the feds are imposing is insanity.

If you are offended by the math and science curricula take a look at what they have done to the history requirements particularly for US history. It should enrage everyone


15 posted on 08/04/2014 12:40:53 PM PDT by Nifster
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“But African-Americans and Hispanics were especially affected. I think our findings highlight the need to anticipate there may be unintended consequences, especially when there are broad mandates that, in effect, make high school coursework harder.”

Unless they are given a diploma just for showing up they drop out. This isn’t breaking news, they will learn as much dropping out or staying in school. Bell curve and all that.


20 posted on 08/04/2014 12:46:00 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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The next step along these lines is Common Core. The Common Core tests are, on average, about two years more advanced than the existing state-mandated tests. A lot more children are going to be “left behind”.


25 posted on 08/04/2014 12:53:07 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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The world needs ditch diggers too...


28 posted on 08/04/2014 12:59:51 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Simple fix. If the goal of the government schools is a higher graduation rate then just drop math.


29 posted on 08/04/2014 1:04:27 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool])
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It would be much better if firm Algebra 1 and Geometry courses were required for graduation. After that, students should have the option of serious shop classes that prepare students for trades or other job skills instead of Algebra 2 and Trig.

Having everyone take Algebra 2 has hurt the truly qualified Math students, with their classes over-run by low talent, low interest students. Besides that, many miss out on having the best available teachers because of all of the time math teachers spend babysitting with students who could care less about upper-level math and getting them ready for tests that have no connection to real job and life math skills.

32 posted on 08/04/2014 1:11:43 PM PDT by grania
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The world needs garbage men....


33 posted on 08/04/2014 1:23:45 PM PDT by Homer1
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Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too.


34 posted on 08/04/2014 1:29:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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they started neglecting male education around 1994.

increasing the difficulty on math and science classes on 9th grade or above insures a sharp increase in failures... which leads to dropouts

this isn’t a shock or even unexpected.

just remember to thank hillary, the teachers union, and the american political left


35 posted on 08/04/2014 1:29:29 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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This is because they come to high school only semi-literate and have never had any academic rigor imposed on them by the K-8 school systems. That level of education went away in the 80s.

By the time they enter a college they have few if any reading, writing, or critical analysis skills nor are they used to any level of hard work to achieve a goal.


38 posted on 08/04/2014 1:44:19 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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