Posted on 07/19/2014 10:41:07 AM PDT by Innovative
The IRS declared under oath and penalty of perjury on Friday that Lois Lerner’s hard drive is irrecoverable after being wiped clean by tech staff and recycled with an outside contractor, according to a court filing.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
* ALINSKY’S RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
Blackberries do have limited storage — they, as the computers access the servers, from where they download the emails they want to read, but that doesn’t impact their staying on the servers, unless they are DELIBERATELY DELETED.
how can they say for sure .. WHAT their data says ?
There oughta be a law — Oh, wait, there is.
The “full account” is to restate the excuse?
what a ridiculously deceptive headline...
how about the state collects the taxes, cuts a percentage check to Sam and everybody just walks away
“Honest teacher! The dog ate my homework, and he puked some of it back up. But it must have tasted good to him, because he went and ate seven other kid’s homework.”
Anyone involved in this conspiracy is a felon.
Anyone who believes the story is a fool.
Anyone who has seen federal contractor’s requirements for data security, access, backup, etc. knows the redundancy and audit trail that are required, just as Uncle Sam requires them of himself - mostly because redundancy of equipment and procedures equals redundancy of staffing i.e. more federal workers to vote Democrat.
The point is that the fed’s own standard practices make this story even more preposterous.
Some clever Congressman should solicit IT volunteers to recover the e-mails the IRS says it can’t or won’t produce. The volunteers will sign non-disclosures since the IRS will predictably cite taxpayer privacy. When a flood of consultants much smarter and motivated than the fed’s cube critters are set loose on the project let’s see what happens next.
Technically a hard drive that crashes is destroyed, NOT wiped and recycled.
Where emails are stored depends on the architecture of the email system. Typical consumer email systems which provide web access store the emails on the server. Systems using IMAP or Microsoft's MAPI protocols typically keep the emails on the server. But on systems using the POP3 protocol emails are downloaded from the mail server to the system running the mail reader and are either immediately or some time later deleted from the server.
So if Ms. Lerner and her fellow IRS employees used POP3 protocol mail readers, then it would be possible that the mail did not exist on any server within a few days of the receipt of the email. Of course either backups of the local email files, or some other email retention strategy should have been in place as required by law. And the idea that the IT folks in the IRS are so inept as to not have backups of their systems is while possible, not likely.
Needless to say both the decision to destroy the hard drive's contents, and to delete or write over backups once an investigation was underway seems highly irregular.
“I’ll take “nobody” for $1000, Alex.”
Coulda sworn I saw Nosmo King do it.............
“Under oath” don’t mean squat to establishment government bureaucrats or RATs but I repeat myself.
It seems IRS has records going back to 1791, but couldn’t keep Lerner’s emails for more than six months!
Records of the Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
(Record Group 58)
1791-1996
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/058.html
It was wiped clean, recycled, given to an outside contractor who then hit it numerous times with a sledge hammer and threw it into an active volcano.
“So if Ms. Lerner and her fellow IRS employees used POP3 protocol mail readers, then it would be possible that the mail did not exist on any server within a few days of the receipt of the email. Of course either backups of the local email files, or some other email retention strategy should have been in place as required by law.”
Be serious — we are not talking about someone’s home emails, we are talking about the IRS!
If she was using POP3, then she wouldn’t be able to check her email anywhere other than where she happened to be logged into. I imagine someone as high up in the IRS as Lerner travels quite a bit. Even if she was using a PST file, she’d have to have it in a central server location so she could access it from other IRS locations.
My exact thought after having to call the IRS this past week. The employees were either completely rude or obtuse beyond imagination. We desperately need to take the IRS down and flatten out our tax code. These people should not be living off our dime.
I’m not against it in principle, but it seems to me an agency would need to be present in each state for enforcement.
I lean more along the lines of a national income tax. If the general withholding were done away with, this would appeal to me.
The individual would instantly no longer be scrutinized. Each citizen would pay sales tax on non-essentials. Food, medicine, medical services, and medical equipment should be exempted.
I believe housing should also be exempted, at least for the primary residency.
I’m sure some folks could tweak this better than I have here, but my essential goal is the completely slice off the IRS or any follow-on agency.
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