Posted on 07/17/2014 4:16:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Not to worry on this folks, CBS news just had Hillary on to give us her analysis.
Putin is simply squeezing obamas balls.
I know it’s early in the process of data gathering. But Putin/Russia controls the mercenaries in E Ukraine. If these guys did in fact shoot down the airliner...Putin is complicit.
IMO...this may well lead to Putin’s eventual downfall. These old KGB trained Russians don’t want to let go of power and Putin succumbed to an aggressive overreach when he invaded Ukraine.
Here’s hoping Putin goes quietly into the night w/ his young mistress and retires. Heaven knows he’s managed to pillage enough $$ from the Russian people.
While Obama is squeezing Reggies'.
Cue the Putin lovers/apologists. For the life of me I cannot understand the love many on this forum have for this ex KGB Soviet Communist thug. This airliner was brought down by an SA-17. The SA-17 is deployed as part of an IADS(Integrated Air Defense System), of which the Russians have one of if not the most formidable IADS in the world. You can’t just pull Joe Shiite the Ragman off the street, stick him in an SA-17 and let him go to town. These SAM crews are highly trained. As part of the overall IADS, someone up the chain had to give the word to engage. That someone knew exactly what this aircraft was. This is on Putin, he owns this.
Was it an SA 17 or SA 11? Thanks
Remember folks, the Obama Administration has been telling us for almost two years that Benghazi was caused by a baloney video. Now, they know within a few hours that a missile did it and they know what kind of missile it was and that the Ukrainians didn’t do it? It could very well be some really bad stuff, but I’d wait a while before making any pronouncements
From everything I have found it was an SA-17. The SA-17 is the modern replacement for the SA-11.
As bad as Obama was with Putin, let’s be honest, compared to Bush he’s Patton towards Obama. Bush couldn’t stop flirting with him and wanted to get gay-married to Putin.
Dude there is video all over the place of this shoot down. We know for a fact there are SAM assets in the area. How many damn aircraft have to fall out of the Ukrainian sky before you take off your tin foil hat?
What was Putin doing with Bush in office, compared to what he’s doing now.
I think Putin had a healthy respect for President Bush.
Bush was in love with Putin. He’d do anything Putin wanted.
It appears the crew that manned that 9K37 Buk missile system didn't have enough training and instead of shooting down what was supposed to be a Ukrainian An-26, they accidentally shot down a jet airliner.
Key passage from article...
“despite their denials, the Russian-backed separatists had weapons capable of downing a commercial flight at least 10 kilometers or 33,000 feet high. On June 29, representatives of Donetsk People’s Republic boasted that they took over a Ukrainian military base that had Buk long-range missiles.”
From March 10, 2014...
Russian troops seize hospital, missile base in Ukraine’s Crimea
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Russian soldiers disarmed servicemen at a Ukrainian Army missile base overnight Friday. Ukrainian military spokesman Vladislav Seleznyov told a local TV station that some 200 troops approached the building and threatened to charge it if the Ukrainian soldiers refused to give up their weapons.
Crimea’s parliament has set a March 16 referendum on joining Russia, which has been denounced by Ukraine’s government.”
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/10/russian-troops-seize-hospital-missile-base-in-ukraine-crimea/
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March 25, 2014...
“the seized armaments include ships, the underwater infrastructure of the Ukrainian Navy that has no analogues anywhere else in the Black Sea, Marine Corps weapons, including MANPADS, air defense systems, and, in particular, Buk M1 missile systems.”
http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/197688.html
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July 17, 2014.
“BUK missile launchers are capable of taking down aircraft the size of a Boeing 777 flying at a cruising altitude of 33,000 feet, meaning the impact is likely to have blown the plane apart in the sky”
“What difference does it make?”
Has the State Dept. confirmed 23 Americans were on board?
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