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Malaysian passenger plane crashes in Ukraine near Russian border: Ifax
Reuters ^ | 17 July 2014 | Alissa de Carbonne

Posted on 07/17/2014 8:24:22 AM PDT by CMB_polarization

A Malaysian passenger airliner with 295 people on board crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border, Interfax cited an aviation industry source as saying on Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; crash; malaysia; malaysianairlines; mh17; mh370; reset; russia; ukraine
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Well, one it was the shortest route, and that saves a ton of fuel, which to a financially strapped airline means a lot of cash kept, and two, up until today no one there was shooting down airliners, and three, many other airlines are flying over the Ukraine/Russia on a daily bases.

Still, I’ll be that will be stopped REAL soon.

Can you imagine being on a say, Stockholm to Singapore flight right now? “Uhm, ladies and gentlemen, this is the captain speaking... Uh, traffic control has advised us to take a more Southerly route this morning, so we’ll be flying over South Africa... Our landing time will be correspondingly longer...”


301 posted on 07/17/2014 10:19:45 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: catfish1957
I despise Putin immensely, but will have to admit I admire his leadership a hell of a lot more than the stupid punk in the WH right now.

Admire? You are nuts.

302 posted on 07/17/2014 10:20:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: caww

Yeah, “crashed”, that’s the ticket!

Mistakes were made and all...


303 posted on 07/17/2014 10:20:47 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: 1rudeboy

it was already posted...prior...pay attention.


304 posted on 07/17/2014 10:21:03 AM PDT by caww
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To: catfish1957

Whoa...Do you realize Putin started this whole thing by grabbing the Crimea?


305 posted on 07/17/2014 10:21:45 AM PDT by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: kabar
Admire? You are nuts.

Patton admired Rommel, and they were enemies. How is that nuts? Sheesh....Grow up!

306 posted on 07/17/2014 10:22:43 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: catfish1957
I understand. I despise Putin immensely, but will have to admit I admire his leadership a hell of a lot more than the stupid punk in the WH right now.

That's like admiring the leadership of a bank robber. Putin's not particularly capable or even particularly smart. Russians have a lower standard of living than Saudis, despite the fact that Russia has more mineral resources per capita. McCain is right - Russia is a gas station to the world. What Putin has going for him are (1) the resources of a mineral-rich country, (2) mindless aggression and (3) a world that, outside of the US, is mired in isolationism.

307 posted on 07/17/2014 10:22:44 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

“A potential false flag to tar the Russians. Who is behind it?”

That’s it, you figured it out! Brilliant! Clearly this is a multi-national conspiracy aimed at tarnishing the good reputation of the gracious and benevolent Russian government.


308 posted on 07/17/2014 10:23:35 AM PDT by Justa
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To: catfish1957

Air France says has decided to avoid airspace of Eastern Ukraine....I suspect others will also avoid.


309 posted on 07/17/2014 10:26:03 AM PDT by caww
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To: Mat_Helm
The Vincennes personnel had the same IFF info. Mistakes were made. There are reports the recent shoot down of the AN-26 in Ukraine was from a missile inside Russia. Who knows.

Many of these separatists have been previously identified as Spetznas personnel. It's my feeling a great deal of them are Russian regulars operating with more than just tacit approval.

310 posted on 07/17/2014 10:26:33 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: caww
it was already posted...prior...pay attention

Is that why you ran to Twitter to post an (unlinked) account that favored the separatists, and (indirectly) Russia?

311 posted on 07/17/2014 10:26:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Dog

As another poster stated, you can say that Putin actually started his campaign back in 2008 with his incursion into Georgia. His intentions are evil alright, and will only end when the west decides to intervene.


312 posted on 07/17/2014 10:27:00 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: kabar

Ukraine says... “ We already did warning to you - do not fly in ‘our sky.’


313 posted on 07/17/2014 10:27:55 AM PDT by caww
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To: catfish1957

Well this may finally force someone off the pot.


314 posted on 07/17/2014 10:28:17 AM PDT by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: Mat_Helm

Being retired Air Force, I used to cringe at the unofficial Army Antiaircraft motto “If it flies, it dies”. Usually followed up with, “Kill ‘em all, let God sort ‘em out.”

I never wanted to be flying over these guys in a war, that’s for sure!


315 posted on 07/17/2014 10:30:34 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Zhang Fei
That's like admiring the leadership of a bank robber

LMAO!!!!..... That may be the most incorrect analogy I have heard in my life here at FR. Are you saying you admire Obama more????????

Come on, come clean.......

316 posted on 07/17/2014 10:30:35 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: Dog

The separatist general who has been claimed to take responsibility just said he didn’t do it and doesn’t have any BUKs.


317 posted on 07/17/2014 10:30:44 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: catfish1957

318 posted on 07/17/2014 10:30:49 AM PDT by caww
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To: 1rudeboy

CNN has in an article: “Terrorists” as shooting it down, I just point that out because most everyone is saying “Separatists”, bad bad story no matter who did it and I will wait for more details to come out. And pray for those poor souls and their families.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


319 posted on 07/17/2014 10:31:35 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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Just heard 23 Americans on board the plane, did anyone else hear this....


320 posted on 07/17/2014 10:31:52 AM PDT by yield 2 the right
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