Posted on 07/15/2014 9:12:27 AM PDT by EveningStar
The Democrats owe a growing debt to the Republican red-hots pursuing the fantasy of impeaching Barack Obama. They're collecting a lot of cash -- probably not as much as they claim, but a lot -- from the naive and excitable folks in the Democratic base. Outrage is easily convertible to cash, as every bagman knows, and the Republicans should get a cut of it. Fair is fair.
Sarah Palin, who as a former governor knows better than to confuse hoping with doing, is leading the baying hounds this week. She told an audience the other day that "the many impeachable offenses of President Obama can no longer be ignored. If after all this, he's not impeachable, then no one is."
She's right about that second part. No one is. We've tried impeachment twice, and neither time the weapon worked.
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It may be a strange concept to understand, but he is referring to the nation. During the Clinton years every word written by Wesley Pruden was applauded on FR, but it seems that may have been just a passing fancy.
Why would winning the Senate make any difference? Republicans will never win the 2/3 of the Senate required to convict. Winning a majority, they still wouldn’t have enough votes even if every single republican senator voted to convict. With the GOPe in charge, you can be certain not every republican would vote for conviction.
There are so many cowards in the republican party it’s nauseating. I’m glad the Founding Fathers didn’t wait for a sure thing to do what is right. I can’t imagine how ashamed they would be if they could see how we’ve ended up.
At the beginning of the US Constitution, Article I Section 2 says about voting for the US House of Representatives, "The Electors [voters for US House reps] in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature."
So that recognizes the right of each state to determine who can vote. It's subject to *specific* later US Constitutional amendments, i.e., you can't keep someone from voting based on race or sex. But there's nothing in there about paupers.
That's why the states can bar felons from voting. Some states do, some states don't. It's up to the individual state. Eric Holder doesn't like barring felons, but there's nothing he can do about it. The Constitutional principle of states determining qualifications for voting (subject only to *specific* Constituional clauses) is well-recognized.
The expert who posted to me had a lot more to back it up, but that's what I remember.
You were actually the next name I was going to suggest.
Well that would go a long way to preventing the takers from overtaking the makers.
What qualifications would you set forth if you could decide?
It’s not the voters I would overhaul but their vehicles: absentee ballots, processes which permit primary crossover voting, lack of electronic voting analysis, all the machines and processes that are hacked every election.
So I'd keep it pretty simple. Just the big welfare programs. And you might have to limit it to state welfare programs; if you included federal programs, you might run into the same difficuties that states did who tried to pass immigration laws.
impeaching a president (even one deserves impeachment as much as dictator Obama) whom the public does not want to impeach will inevitably cause a backlash that will help him.
A democracy is only as good as its people, and the goodness and smartness of ours is going down hill fast.
Apparently I made it up after investigating. He needs to be ruled ineligible for office by first having his first XO declared unconstitutional. The first XO, I believe, was to lock his records.
People on welfare, food stamps, in prison, etc are wards of the state to some degree and should not be able to vote for taxpayer provided bennies.
IOW, if these programs did not exist, I would have no problem with universal suffrage in House elections for those over . . . 29 years of age.
Limit suffrage to self-sufficient adults, divide power once with a senate of the states and perhaps we can save ourselves.
Which of Clinton’s executive actions were repealed when he was impeached?
I don’t see in the Constitution any wording to this effect?
In other words, the President will not be held accountable for anything.
There is no balance of powers in Washington.
The Rule of Law has been suspended for the Elite.
Congressional Republicans are spineless and more concerned with the approval of the MSM than they are of upholding their OATH of office.
When the Supreme Court ruled that the Senate was not in recess and therefore the appointments were not valid, that probably invalidated the NLRB rulings made by Obama's appointees.
The election will be our savior grace! That is, if the then newly elected Republican House and Senate can actually pass legislation and cut off budgets that have the effect of halting Obama’s well laid plans for American decline.
Months ago, some of us were speculating about just what will be the next great Obama scandal to emerge. Illegal border invasion was an easy guess. What is now just coming to light is the complex and vast network of government agencies and Obama serfs that have created what amounts to an “Under and Overground Railroad”, this time not to help runaway slaves to achieve freedom, but to massively import illegals from anywhere that will wind up voting Democrat.
He wouldn’t do that, would he? He couldn’t, could he? Open your eyes, it is happening before you. This is whole thing is remarkable and devastating in its implications, and he obviously is not through. So, you think Boehner and who ever leads the new Republican Senate can undo this and Obamacare too? I’d like to see some evidence that they have the stones and the backbone to do so. Sadly, I feel we will be disappointed.
So, can you blame the individuals and the soon to be rising chorus of those who have reached the end of their patience, for their calls for impeachment? This is not an example of political extremism or irrational behavior. It is an expression of frustration with the mainly ineffective opposition to the Obama crime regime, and an attempt at self defense. Can you blame them?
A democracy is only as good as its people, and the goodness and smartness of ours is going down hill fast.
Good point.
Unless you actually catch a president committing an actual crime people can understand, impeachment won't go anywhere.
Otherwise people assume presidents are going to overreach and write the whole thing off as politics.
Maybe things should be different, but if they were, we wouldn't have gotten to the point we're at now.
What good is winning at the polls if we cannot use the majority to impeach him? It takes balls, not polls.
I can’t blame them at all, I’m right there with them.
Just: let’s wait 3.5 months before we start talking about it.
Another 15 weeks ain’t gonna kill us. Do NOT let the RAT media
take impeachment and run it to rile the RAT base, which it already is! Don’t take the bait.
“We have an actual criminal running the Justice Department and congress does nothing about it.”
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Exactly right! We may as well change the name from Justice Department to Department of Confiscation, Oppression and Obfuscation.
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