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We're No. 1 (and We're Going to Stay That Way) Why the prophets of American decline are wrong.
The Financial Post ^ | July 3, 2014 | Tom Donilon

Posted on 07/04/2014 12:25:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

"The United States cannot afford another decline like that which has characterized the past decade and a half.... [O]nly self-delusion can keep us from admitting our decline to ourselves."

-Henry Kissinger, 1961

For all our optimism, Americans have always worried about our place in the world. It's in our DNA, and it helps drive our renewal. To borrow from the great political scientist Samuel Huntington, "[T]he United States is unlikely to decline so long as its public is periodically convinced that it is about to decline. The declinists play an indispensable role in preventing what they are predicting."

When Kissinger wrote the above words in 1961, he did have some valid concerns. At the time, the U.S. economy was struggling to grow its way out of a recession. The Soviet Union had launched the world's first artificial satellite, known as Sputnik, into orbit. The nation went into a panic, thinking we had fallen behind in technological innovation and would soon be outspent and outmatched by Moscow.

And yet the decade and a half that was the subject of Kissinger's fears -- the period from the end of World War II until John F. Kennedy's administration -- is now seen by most historians as an era of unparalleled American economic growth and power. The decade that followed was even more prosperous, ending with the United States, not the Soviet Union, making the first lunar landing. And a mere 30 years after Kissinger wrote those words, the Soviet Union had ceased to exist entirely.

Every 10 years or so, a new bout of profound pessimism has swept the nation. In his fine book, The Myth of America's Decline, the German journalist and author Josef Joffe documents these periodic waves of declinism....

(Excerpt) Read more at foreignpolicy.com ...


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To: FredZarguna

Fences and walls, with guard posts.


21 posted on 07/04/2014 12:54:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: miss marmelstein
His opinion is therefore NOT objective.

More importantly, his analysis is unlikely to even accidentally veer close to reality.

22 posted on 07/04/2014 12:56:06 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Thanks, I didn’t notice that.


23 posted on 07/04/2014 12:57:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Kenny
Thank you for the optimistic article. Much needed.

Keep drinking yer Kool-Aid™. Throw in some pot and LSD.

24 posted on 07/04/2014 12:58:20 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Triple concrete razor wire fence that goes up 50 feet and down below ground at least that far, with four lane barrier patrol roads between, and shoot-to-kill rules of engagement.

It's the only way to really be sure.

25 posted on 07/04/2014 12:58:53 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just didn’t want people to be mislead, that’s all.


26 posted on 07/04/2014 1:03:04 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It isn’t remaining as a place to make money and a dominant military that interests me, the things that I cared about, being American, and sustaining “America” are already done, a thing of the past.

What made us special, and America, what we fought for, is already lost.


27 posted on 07/04/2014 1:04:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

America holds together during declines because our bedrock traditions are intact and respected. We get our fill of a counter-culture and we then pull back to the things that are tried and true.

Now does anyone think those traditions are still intact today?


29 posted on 07/04/2014 1:06:35 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: miss marmelstein

No, I didn’t look like I normally do as to the author’s background.


30 posted on 07/04/2014 1:06:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pretty rediculous quote by Kissinger given the year he made it, since the postwar years though the fifties were America’s peak.


31 posted on 07/04/2014 1:07:18 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, you made a mistake, did you????? How dare you; we never make mistakes or jump the gun here!!!!!!!!!!!


33 posted on 07/04/2014 1:08:20 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: max americana
I’ve read thousands of articles since the 90’s that China will overtake us in (insert years less than 5) yet here’s the USA still number

Yes, still #1 in over-the-top frivolous consumerism, enabling all the rest (I'm not impressed). Equally 'impressive' that we have overtaken the former Soviet Union and China in degree of centrally-managed economic stimulus, blowing one world-class bubble after another, with no actual production to show for it, but a lot of artificially-inflated asset classes.

34 posted on 07/04/2014 1:09:30 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: miss marmelstein

The number of FReepers who NEVER open an article and read the full story before they comment on the thread is scary. It is almost as if they want to be misled.


35 posted on 07/04/2014 1:10:39 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t Tom Donilon an Obamabot??


36 posted on 07/04/2014 1:11:00 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the smart solution is a national divorce, so the Left can have their “best practices” demonstration project on their territory and we can go back to a constitutional republic on our side. Sound good?


Sounds very good to me. I want to separate from them because they would not participate in nor appreciate the sweat, blood and tears necessary to bring us back to a constitutional republic. They can go to hell.


37 posted on 07/04/2014 1:13:47 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: steve86

I still think this will be the Chinese century. We are clearly declining for ll of the reasons you read about here everyday.

India doesn’t seem to be aggressive about taking control of international issues.

China has stepped up imperialism making a grab for everything in the north west Pacific. They are building up their military. They can buy whatever they want. They have strong presence on most continents. Now restricted by an EPA.

Short of another massive revolution, they are full speed ahead.


38 posted on 07/04/2014 1:14:39 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Decline Ha...just wait till the Green River Formation comes on line...3 Trillion barrels of oil and 1 trillion recoverable with today’s technology....according to the USGS


39 posted on 07/04/2014 1:15:46 PM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: spokeshave

Abundant natural resources mean nothing with a criminal/corrupt government at the helm. Just ask the Republic of Congo.


40 posted on 07/04/2014 1:18:12 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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