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End the McDaniel Kook-Fest (concern troll zot fest is just getting started)
The Neshoba Democrat ^ | 7/1/14 | Editorial

Posted on 07/02/2014 6:13:19 AM PDT by koanhead

Conservatism in Mississippi faces a rocky and critically defining period ahead after the GOP Senate primary bloodbath.

There are many good people - red, yellow, black and white, tea party and establishment - in Mississippi who are concerned about better public policy that will involve, among other things, - and most importantly - smaller, limited government.

If anybody can bring us together, Thad can. He's spent his entire career building and tending relationships like a master rose gardener. But the party must step up, too.

The next six years will shape the future of America, and Mississippi needs to be a part, for the sake of our Republic.

We will not get into the train wreck of the Cochran campaign now, but some remarkable people did some remarkable things over the last two weeks to pull off a remarkable win.

Without marching orders, individual Mississippians just went to work for Thad, from Oxford to Madison to the Coast, and gradually the heavy artillery arrived with reinforcements.

Strong leadership from the top down matters now more than ever. There's no place for the cowardly because somebody is going to have to pick up the pieces and put the party back together with more diversity.

With an unusual assist from African-American voters and other Democrats who feared the extremes of his opponent, Sen. Thad Cochran beat back a spirited challenge from state Sen. Chris McDaniel, triumphing in a Republican run-off and defeating the tea party, where the movement's hopes were brightest.

McDaniel, speaking in Hattiesburg, was angry and it showed. "There is something a bit strange, there is something a bit unusual about a Republican primary that's decided by liberal Democrats," he said.

He accused Cochran of abandoning the conservative movement, as he and his supporters have all along.

"So much for principles," he said.

We wonder what makes Mr. McDaniel believe African-Americans and other Democrats can't be principled as well.

It was an extraordinary end to a wild campaign, with Republicans standing up for the rights of black Democrats, and with cash-rich national tea party groups crying foul in defeat.

The bitter gush of fury and vitriol from McDaniel supporters after the defeat was, no doubt, brought on by Mr. McDaniel himself with the combative post-election speech where he refused to concede.

The right thing was to concede and start working for the good of our state and our nation, given such a wide margin of loss.

Meanwhile, his supporters continue to alienate voters, as if a Democrat's vote is dirty or unacceptable, not good enough.

We are done with those days. A vote is a vote. Good for Sen. Cochran for reaching out to Democrats.

Mr. Cochran is more likely to bring about change in Washington with that tone than one advocating the establishment of a pure race or party with a litmus test. Stick to public policy and get the government out of our lives.

Last Tuesday, Democratic voters trickled out of the Court Street United Methodist Church in downtown Hattiesburg, saying they had voted for a Republican for the first time in their lives - Thad Cochran.

So we have some Mississippians who voted Republican for the first time in their lives. So they vote once. Then it's twice in November.

All of a sudden, they're comfortable in their new shoes and the GOP is growing. Pro-life, like-minded African Americans are flocking in droves, embracing smaller, limited government and focused on ending the destructive cycle of poverty.

McDaniel supporters could simply try being gracious in defeat - and some reasonable and moderate supporters like Madison's Russ Latino have.

"Be advised though that there is a growing sentiment among conservatives that there isn't much of a distinction between the moderate Republican and the Democrat and that considerations like majorities aren't as compelling as they once were where Republicans have squandered majorities in the past," wrote our sometime op-ed columnist Latino to his friends who supported Sen. Cochran. "This sentiment is compounded when you win an election with what is at least perceived of as Democrat messaging."

He goes on to close: "All of this leads to great consternation over the general election. If you don't want us to be a part of your party, why should we vote for you? Understand, this is not a threat on my part.

"I want you to 'get' the level of anger and frustration and seriously consider the impact of telling people like me to go fly a kite. It hasn't been everyone, but now is not the time for Cochran supporters to be glib.

"I said yesterday, and I meant it, that the winning candidate needed to exercise humility in victory. I also think the winning candidate needs to prove that he still has some fight left in him and wants to represent the conservative base of his party. It won't be an easy sell. I'm not trying to start a debate. Just a dialogue."

What if Mr. McDaniel would have used similar words election night? But instead, he spit in Thad Cochran's face, evoking equally angry responses from the "establishment."

Mr. Cochran can reach out to those reasonable voices like Latino who are willing to engage in dialogue, but Mr. McDaniel is going to have to be among the willing in order to budge the needle.

Chasing away traditional Democrats is wrong and morally corrupt. Liberty is about the freedom to choose.

We still can't get over the hypocrisy of the McDaniel camp. It's more like selective liberty and selective memory.

For example, Pat Bruce, chairman of the Madison County Conservative Coalition (formerly the Madison County Tea Party) is a former Democrat, having worked on the campaign of Democrat Sen. John C. Stennis in the 1970s.

She apparently saw the light. Why couldn't traditional Democrats Tuesday?

Mr. McDaniel can relate to seeing the light. He voted in the Democratic primary in 2003, presumably for Ronnie Musgrove and not for Haley Barbour.

Should McDaniel and Bruce be disqualified because they fail the purity test? Of course not.

Brighter days lie ahead for Mississippi and for our great Republic if we can all work together.

But, THE SHOUTING MUST STOP! Let the dialogue begin.

Yet more than a week after the election, nerves still haven't settled, Mr. McDaniel is nowhere near opening a dialogue and he's masquerading as the nominee when he lost the election by 7,000 votes in a continuing kook-fest that includes a write-in campaign.

Gov. Phil Bryant and Mississippi GOP Chairman Joe Nosef have the power to end this. The vacuum created by the party apparatus not closing ranks and enforcing very basic management rules is being filled by the insane, lunatic fringe spewing the most vile comments and bizarre conspiracy theories ever seen in modern Mississippi politics.

The situation is completely out of control. For the sake and dignity of our beloved Mississippi and our Republic, end this nightmare swiftly.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: cochran; gopprimary; mcdaniel; mississippiprimary; zot; zotbait
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To: koanhead

One thing no one seems to talk about is the abject, illogical lunacy of open primaries where you let your opposition chose your candidate.

What in hell is wrong with a political party and its leadership that thinks this is a good idea?


41 posted on 07/02/2014 6:26:23 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: koanhead

For way too long the Republicans have put expediency first over principle. And see where it has gotten us. Democrat Lite...

No more, no more... Principle is what must guide us, if we don’t stick to our principles then what the heck do we stick to? The quest for power over the citizenry? That just makes us Democrats with a different name.

And in this case it is Vote Fraud... vote fraud is THEFT. Theft of the single most precious right a LEGAL citizen of the United States owns; because it is through our votes that we can legally remove a politician who is supposed to represent us and replace them with one who will do so.


42 posted on 07/02/2014 6:26:25 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: koanhead

Get lost dingbat. Where are the kitties when you need them?


43 posted on 07/02/2014 6:26:35 AM PDT by dforest
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To: koanhead

You just arrived, looks like it’s time for you to go already.


44 posted on 07/02/2014 6:26:43 AM PDT by Finatic (Sometimes I think it would be nice to just get it on and get it over with. Once and for all.)
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To: koanhead
If anybody can bring us together, Thad can.

That is demonstratively false.

45 posted on 07/02/2014 6:26:53 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Do the ‘rats have open primaries in Mississippi?


46 posted on 07/02/2014 6:27:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: McGruff

Its always party unity when it comes to uniting behind the RINOs but they actively try to take down the conservatives.

No one is more “purist” than a moderate and I say that as a conservative who will vote for a couple of moderates in the coming election because they’ve been smart enough to avoid a fight with conservatives.


47 posted on 07/02/2014 6:27:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

An open primary may not be idea, but it’s the rules as they existed during the election. Changing them in mid-stream, even to improve them, would make a farce of the election.


48 posted on 07/02/2014 6:27:30 AM PDT by koanhead (If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism -Ronald Reagan)
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To: MrB
Do the ‘rats have open primaries in Mississippi?

Yes; both sides are set up that way. Maybe they should change it going forward, but it's too late to do anything about this election.

49 posted on 07/02/2014 6:28:29 AM PDT by koanhead (If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism -Ronald Reagan)
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To: gspurlock

“If Thad was going to help reduce the size of government, he would not have spent his entire career bring pork to Mississippi, still the poorest state in the union.”

A state whose “state buildings” are the Outhouse and the Double Wide!


50 posted on 07/02/2014 6:28:49 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: koanhead
Sorry. Not wading through the scree of someone who starts out calling people contesting voter fraud a kook-fest.

If party unity means accepting the 'values' exhibited in Mississippi, count me out.

51 posted on 07/02/2014 6:29:02 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: koanhead
The election was a farce from the beginning. No one with dementia should be running.

How much are you getting paid by the Cochran camp? They have a reputation for stiffing their workers.

/johnny

52 posted on 07/02/2014 6:29:49 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: koanhead
Democratic voters trickled out of the Court Street United Methodist Church in downtown Hattiesburg, saying they had voted for a Republican for the first time in their lives - Thad Cochran

Don't worry. They'll go back to voting for 'rats in November. It now looks like thousands of votes were from people ineligible to vote.

53 posted on 07/02/2014 6:29:56 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Norm Lenhart
You gotta see this 'party unity' troll.

/johnny

54 posted on 07/02/2014 6:31:09 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: koanhead

Yes, time for party unity!! I mean, given the way the eatablishment lines up to support Tea Party candidates when they win, it’s the least we can do. /s


55 posted on 07/02/2014 6:31:38 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: koanhead
Meanwhile, his supporters continue to alienate voters, as if a Democrat's vote is dirty or unacceptable, not good enough.

For a GOP primary? No, Democrat votes are not good enough, especially ineligible and purchased votes.

This silly editorial reads like a parody. I'm still trying to figure out if it's a joke.

"He's spent his entire career building and tending relationships like a master rose gardener."

That cannot have been written seriously, could it?

The situation is completely out of control. For the sake and dignity of our beloved Mississippi and our Republic, end this nightmare swiftly.

That can happen if Cochran concedes since his "victory" was invalidated by ineligible votes and tainted by vote-buying and illegal payoffs. Then those that perpetrated the fraud, up to and including various Cochrans and various Barbours need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

56 posted on 07/02/2014 6:32:30 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: koanhead
but it's too late to do anything about this election

Earth to koanhead: It is NOT too late and if you have read this board on the subject, you would be aware that True the Vote has filed suit.

Helpful hint to perhaps salvage your membership here: Principles are above party. Mississippi is the current battleground for that bedrock belief.

57 posted on 07/02/2014 6:33:21 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: koanhead

This article is a troll.

Not the posting, mind you.

The author of it sat down with a huge grin on his face and made the conscious effort to write an article as biased as can be that would provoke a negative response.

He can shove it.


58 posted on 07/02/2014 6:33:32 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: koanhead; All

WHY are we giving space & responses to an obvious usurper??????

We don’t need this!

ZOT!


59 posted on 07/02/2014 6:33:52 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: koanhead

Party unity is one thing, this Mississippi mess has to be an exception. Its a matter of right vs. wrong, ethics vs. win at any cost, or more simply honesty. Cochran’s campaign used an underhanded and desperate tactic in enlisting both dems and standard dem tactics to win at any cost. That can not be ignored nor let stand if elections can continue to mean anything relating to freedom.


60 posted on 07/02/2014 6:35:10 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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