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End the McDaniel Kook-Fest (concern troll zot fest is just getting started)
The Neshoba Democrat ^ | 7/1/14 | Editorial

Posted on 07/02/2014 6:13:19 AM PDT by koanhead

Conservatism in Mississippi faces a rocky and critically defining period ahead after the GOP Senate primary bloodbath.

There are many good people - red, yellow, black and white, tea party and establishment - in Mississippi who are concerned about better public policy that will involve, among other things, - and most importantly - smaller, limited government.

If anybody can bring us together, Thad can. He's spent his entire career building and tending relationships like a master rose gardener. But the party must step up, too.

The next six years will shape the future of America, and Mississippi needs to be a part, for the sake of our Republic.

We will not get into the train wreck of the Cochran campaign now, but some remarkable people did some remarkable things over the last two weeks to pull off a remarkable win.

Without marching orders, individual Mississippians just went to work for Thad, from Oxford to Madison to the Coast, and gradually the heavy artillery arrived with reinforcements.

Strong leadership from the top down matters now more than ever. There's no place for the cowardly because somebody is going to have to pick up the pieces and put the party back together with more diversity.

With an unusual assist from African-American voters and other Democrats who feared the extremes of his opponent, Sen. Thad Cochran beat back a spirited challenge from state Sen. Chris McDaniel, triumphing in a Republican run-off and defeating the tea party, where the movement's hopes were brightest.

McDaniel, speaking in Hattiesburg, was angry and it showed. "There is something a bit strange, there is something a bit unusual about a Republican primary that's decided by liberal Democrats," he said.

He accused Cochran of abandoning the conservative movement, as he and his supporters have all along.

"So much for principles," he said.

We wonder what makes Mr. McDaniel believe African-Americans and other Democrats can't be principled as well.

It was an extraordinary end to a wild campaign, with Republicans standing up for the rights of black Democrats, and with cash-rich national tea party groups crying foul in defeat.

The bitter gush of fury and vitriol from McDaniel supporters after the defeat was, no doubt, brought on by Mr. McDaniel himself with the combative post-election speech where he refused to concede.

The right thing was to concede and start working for the good of our state and our nation, given such a wide margin of loss.

Meanwhile, his supporters continue to alienate voters, as if a Democrat's vote is dirty or unacceptable, not good enough.

We are done with those days. A vote is a vote. Good for Sen. Cochran for reaching out to Democrats.

Mr. Cochran is more likely to bring about change in Washington with that tone than one advocating the establishment of a pure race or party with a litmus test. Stick to public policy and get the government out of our lives.

Last Tuesday, Democratic voters trickled out of the Court Street United Methodist Church in downtown Hattiesburg, saying they had voted for a Republican for the first time in their lives - Thad Cochran.

So we have some Mississippians who voted Republican for the first time in their lives. So they vote once. Then it's twice in November.

All of a sudden, they're comfortable in their new shoes and the GOP is growing. Pro-life, like-minded African Americans are flocking in droves, embracing smaller, limited government and focused on ending the destructive cycle of poverty.

McDaniel supporters could simply try being gracious in defeat - and some reasonable and moderate supporters like Madison's Russ Latino have.

"Be advised though that there is a growing sentiment among conservatives that there isn't much of a distinction between the moderate Republican and the Democrat and that considerations like majorities aren't as compelling as they once were where Republicans have squandered majorities in the past," wrote our sometime op-ed columnist Latino to his friends who supported Sen. Cochran. "This sentiment is compounded when you win an election with what is at least perceived of as Democrat messaging."

He goes on to close: "All of this leads to great consternation over the general election. If you don't want us to be a part of your party, why should we vote for you? Understand, this is not a threat on my part.

"I want you to 'get' the level of anger and frustration and seriously consider the impact of telling people like me to go fly a kite. It hasn't been everyone, but now is not the time for Cochran supporters to be glib.

"I said yesterday, and I meant it, that the winning candidate needed to exercise humility in victory. I also think the winning candidate needs to prove that he still has some fight left in him and wants to represent the conservative base of his party. It won't be an easy sell. I'm not trying to start a debate. Just a dialogue."

What if Mr. McDaniel would have used similar words election night? But instead, he spit in Thad Cochran's face, evoking equally angry responses from the "establishment."

Mr. Cochran can reach out to those reasonable voices like Latino who are willing to engage in dialogue, but Mr. McDaniel is going to have to be among the willing in order to budge the needle.

Chasing away traditional Democrats is wrong and morally corrupt. Liberty is about the freedom to choose.

We still can't get over the hypocrisy of the McDaniel camp. It's more like selective liberty and selective memory.

For example, Pat Bruce, chairman of the Madison County Conservative Coalition (formerly the Madison County Tea Party) is a former Democrat, having worked on the campaign of Democrat Sen. John C. Stennis in the 1970s.

She apparently saw the light. Why couldn't traditional Democrats Tuesday?

Mr. McDaniel can relate to seeing the light. He voted in the Democratic primary in 2003, presumably for Ronnie Musgrove and not for Haley Barbour.

Should McDaniel and Bruce be disqualified because they fail the purity test? Of course not.

Brighter days lie ahead for Mississippi and for our great Republic if we can all work together.

But, THE SHOUTING MUST STOP! Let the dialogue begin.

Yet more than a week after the election, nerves still haven't settled, Mr. McDaniel is nowhere near opening a dialogue and he's masquerading as the nominee when he lost the election by 7,000 votes in a continuing kook-fest that includes a write-in campaign.

Gov. Phil Bryant and Mississippi GOP Chairman Joe Nosef have the power to end this. The vacuum created by the party apparatus not closing ranks and enforcing very basic management rules is being filled by the insane, lunatic fringe spewing the most vile comments and bizarre conspiracy theories ever seen in modern Mississippi politics.

The situation is completely out of control. For the sake and dignity of our beloved Mississippi and our Republic, end this nightmare swiftly.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: cochran; gopprimary; mcdaniel; mississippiprimary; zot; zotbait
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To: Black Agnes

Well, they reflect their current base. The ones that cant wait to be crapped all over in the name of more lesser evil.

Actual conservatives have bailed. What remains deserves what it gets.


141 posted on 07/02/2014 7:16:56 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: koanhead
Three problems here. First, you are correct to point out the idiocy of trying to police 'intent'. But that is not the issue here. The issue is trying to police those who actually voted in the Dem Primary. And in that event, it is 100% possible to enforce. Unfortunately, we have corrupt election officials working on behalf of the Cochran campaign who were specifically ordered NOT to verify that status.

The second problem here is that the Cochran campaign sent out flyers that reinforced the patently false narrative of Republicans regarding race. The Republican Party has never been the party of racists, segregationists, etc., yet now we have a Republican reinforcing the worst race-baiting possible with Democrat voters.

Lastly, we have misappropriation of funds from GOP coffers. The NRSC raised money on the premise of using that money to defeat Democrats in November. Yet instead, that money has been used to defeat Republicans in June. Furthermore, that money was given directly to Democrats to empower them and get out the vote. I don't know about you, but I think donors would be highly upset to find out that the checks they stroked to the GOP were given to Mississippi Democrats instead.

Capisce?

142 posted on 07/02/2014 7:17:18 AM PDT by Hoodat (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: koanhead

I am solidly in the McDaniel camp and do not appreciate being called a kook. I am a conservative first, not a Republican. The GOP abandoned people like me long ago but reinforced that with its 2012 nomination of the father of gay marriage and socialized medicine for president.

P.U.M.A.


143 posted on 07/02/2014 7:17:43 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Bitter clinger & creepy-ass cracker)
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To: koanhead

I’m generally in agreement with you.

Not here.

Reagan’s 11th Commandment cuts both ways, and Cochrane’s massive violation of it should not be forgiven just because he “won” the nomination.

What Cochrane did exceeded, grossly so, the boundaries of any acceptable level of the expected rough and tumble of primary campaigns. He undermined the integrity of the process and system by buying votes. He undermined the integrity of the Conservative Movement by attacking McDaniels using slanderous “right wing” stereotypes on issues like race and racism.

There’s a difference between winning, and winning ugly. Cochrane won very, very ugly and now gets to reap the consequences of that win.


144 posted on 07/02/2014 7:18:25 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Sirius Lee
Cock'ran's slimey vote buying scheme was the decisive act of the GOPe burning its bridges from Conservatives


145 posted on 07/02/2014 7:19:36 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Black Agnes
Normally, I’d say I can't see that happening but in the current atmosphere, I offer no forecast. There's too much going on right now to predict what's going to happen.
146 posted on 07/02/2014 7:19:54 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: koanhead

IBTZ?


147 posted on 07/02/2014 7:21:15 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: koanhead
When you realize that the party you have supported for years is entirely made up of sleazy, career politicians who want nothing more than to stay in power at any cost and you decide to stop blindly following them....that is not cutting and running.

You seem to be new here so let me fill you in...This forum is about conservatism NOT Republicanism.

148 posted on 07/02/2014 7:22:09 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: koanhead
"Much as it pains me to say it, it's time to put Party Unity first."

Oh, how cute. Rove, is that you?

Party unity can go straight to hell. Take your GOP lefties and....well, you know what you can do with them. Thing is, you liberals like that kind of thing.

149 posted on 07/02/2014 7:29:07 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Sirius Lee
Smell that ozone?

I thought I caught a whiff earlier, but I guess the moderators are amused or otherwise occupied. Please ping me if this one rides the lightning.

150 posted on 07/02/2014 7:32:25 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: koanhead
"I realize that emotions run high in the wake of this mess..."

Planting the notion that pushback against the crimes in Mississippi is based on emotion instead of rationality.

Try again, GOPer.

151 posted on 07/02/2014 7:33:39 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: koanhead

Where did you go? Come out and play.


152 posted on 07/02/2014 7:35:24 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: koanhead

Admit it. You really enjoy being dumped on and rained on by your own
party. It floats your boat.


153 posted on 07/02/2014 7:36:09 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being pissed on by their own party!)
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To: don-o

Maybe he’s reading that ‘tact’ link I sent.

Or using a thesaurus to find more insults for people he’s going to need in November.


154 posted on 07/02/2014 7:36:43 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: don-o
This is a tough crowd to play to. Too much unity going on here, and all of it aimed at the poster and the liberal GOP that he represents. ;)

/johnny

155 posted on 07/02/2014 7:37:12 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Getting in bed with Democrat electioneering techniques should not be tolerated.

Exactly. That is certainly a red line for me. Such actions need to be severely chastised, or else the conservative movement is done for; we will be constantly fighting off charges of "racism" from our "own" otherwise!

That's what these "unifiers" don't get. Or refuse to acknowledge. If this is tolerated, for the same of "unity" it's only going to be destructive in the long run.

Unlike some I am not hollering “kill the GOP.” It needs a heart transplant, however.

And neither am I! It most certainly does need a "heart transplant" though, STAT!

156 posted on 07/02/2014 7:37:20 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Black Agnes
I might have been open to a reconciliation with GOPe had there been an apology from the Cochran camp for the racist flyers and robocalls. IOW, throw a couple of staffers under the bus for "unauthorized activities on behalf of the Senator." We all understand the importance of the mid-term election.

HOWEVER...we have learned there is no reconciliation to be had with GOPe. The way they've responded in the aftermath of last Tuesday's results is simply "we f'ed you over, and we'll continue to "f" you over, get used to it. All you have to do is read the comments from McCain, and the silence from Priebus has been thunderous.

I am now a RINO, so I can vote in primaries for Tea Partiers like Ted Cruz. My money and support will go to Tea Party conservatives.

The Cochran "victory", whether it holds or not, is a classic example of a Pyrrhic victory.

157 posted on 07/02/2014 7:37:22 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: koanhead
Should McDaniel and Bruce be disqualified because they fail the purity test? Of course not..

Note, carefully, how the writer changes the actual thrust of the protest, to imply some form of fanaticism on the part of the victims of flagrantly bad behavior on the part of the Cochran campaign managers (not of the Senator personally)! The victims are protesting being smeared, having bought votes used against them, and maybe even some invalid votes being improperly counted.

Similarly, the writer continues the insult by calling those who protest "kooks."

As an Ohioan, it is not my place to meddle in Mississippi politics. Elections--even Federal elections--are supposed under Article I of the Federal Constitution, to be governed by State law. And, unlike many over the past century, this Ohioan has always opposed outside meddling in that process. But as a rational analyst; as a lifelong student of rhetoric & exponent of reasoned debate, I will comment on what is no better than a propaganda piece. If the writer were seriously interested in promoting party unity, rather than further denigrating the candidate he doesn't like, he would never have employed the techniques of a dissembler.

William Flax

158 posted on 07/02/2014 7:37:22 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: koanhead
Let the dialogue begin.

This is a liberal phrase.. I assume from a liberal newspaper.

159 posted on 07/02/2014 7:38:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Today’s elitist GOP needs put to death and a resurrection, not a mere heart transplant!


160 posted on 07/02/2014 7:38:17 AM PDT by Stymee (Father of 8)
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