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1 posted on 06/27/2014 6:05:36 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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Ping for your lists.


2 posted on 06/27/2014 6:06:24 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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Arm the Border Patrol like a military.


3 posted on 06/27/2014 6:07:48 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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When a nation fights a series of long, low-intensity wars, soldiers act like cops, and finally cops act like soldiers.

The part I don’t understand:

Axiomatic to fighting an insurgency is need to cultivate and retain the trust of the populace, so WHY do so many PD’s appear hell-bent on BANISHING trust..?

The idea is that the populace supplies INTEL regarding the enemy.

The fact that cops are so complacent about public trust indicates to me that they have some very reliable ALTERNATE source of intel regarding the communities they police.

I WONDER WHAT THAT SOURCE IS, RIGHT...?


8 posted on 06/27/2014 6:13:12 PM PDT by gaijin
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There’s so much free stuff available, counties of well under 100K population have multiple Humvees, MRAPs, helicopters, etc. I told a deputy recently they should keep an eye out for a Stryker and he said that would be a good addition to the fleet.


9 posted on 06/27/2014 6:15:30 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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This article was great except for two phrases:

”Progressive police chiefs in Madison, Wisconsin, and Salt Lake City, Utah, for example…"

"the ACLU offers many common sense recommendations..."

10 posted on 06/27/2014 6:17:24 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


11 posted on 06/27/2014 6:19:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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Amazing article in this day and age, thanks for posting.

You want to look around the world and see what a country really stands for, and what the word “civilization” really means? You need only look at one thing: the relationship of its police to its people.

That tells you at a glance everything you need to know.

People take cops for granted. But I submit that one of the highest achievements of Western civilization is the modern police force that is specifically and by intent NOT a standing army.

THAT is more precious than gold.


12 posted on 06/27/2014 6:19:55 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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These types of operations are probably attracting individuals hungry for action.


14 posted on 06/27/2014 6:21:48 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Many communities now look upon police as an occupying army, their streets more reminiscent of Baghdad or Kabul than a city in America.

And what did American's watch for nearly 10 years on the news every night?

US soldiers walking down dusty alleys kicking in doors and raiding homes...Over and over and over for about 10 years....Endless SWAT style raids...A SWAT war...

The entire time it appeared as one big giant police action...Like no war I've ever seen or read about...

15 posted on 06/27/2014 6:24:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Hmm, wonder why the FG would want to be encouraging the militarisation of the police? Combined with all the ammo they’re buying, and the Pentagons training actively for putting down nationwide civil disorder, I have wonder it is exactly they are expecting and preparing for?


16 posted on 06/27/2014 6:24:50 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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Premier Ubama doesn’t need any police. Police protect the peasants. The more peasants who die, the better. Ubama needs a civilian army to help the process along.


18 posted on 06/27/2014 6:32:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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“It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government.” Thomas Paine.


19 posted on 06/27/2014 6:34:08 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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And knock it OFF with the military funerals for cops, too! This pisses me off BIG TIME but I guess the government needs the cops to feel REALLY important if they are to order them to shoot civilians soon.


20 posted on 06/27/2014 6:35:59 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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The police use the WOD as an excuse for and for funding of their military toys.


21 posted on 06/27/2014 6:39:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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I am afraid Obama is ramping up the Cops to be his Civilian Security Force. The Military won’t turn on the citizens but the Cops may. The Sheriffs and Deputies won’t turn either.


22 posted on 06/27/2014 6:40:30 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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Reading stuff like this makes me want to “shelter in place”.


26 posted on 06/27/2014 6:45:21 PM PDT by glorgau
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But when SWAT raids affected whites, only 38 percent were for drug searches, even though whites use drugs at roughly the same rates as blacks and Latinos.

That is stupid. The cops are not after users, they are after sellers, and blacks and latinos are sellers at a much higher rate than whites.
I agree with the main premise, that the police are getting too militarized, but making the point that there is good reason why blacks and latinos are getting plenty of attention from the cops doing low-level drug investigations.

27 posted on 06/27/2014 6:53:02 PM PDT by expat2
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I snitched out the cops to a private golf course this week, and I'm proud of myself.

The course was having a big "guests" tourney, and the cops were staking out the exit highways from the course for DUI. I drove up and tipped them the wink at the reception tent.

Scumbags.

31 posted on 06/27/2014 7:25:29 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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I can't think of any military weapons a civilian police force would need. Some technology now available on the market like night vision glasses? Yea OK. They don't need a 50 caliber except one LOCKED in an armory vault with limited access just as even the NG's require. It should only be accessible for removable by order of sheriff, chief, or their second in command. They don't need APC's Humvees, not even a Duce and Half. They don't need Drones in any capacity. The National Guard needs to be returned more to a civil defense local defense posture assisting in invasions or area disasters.

Our members of the armed forces by design of the forefathers operate under a completely different law than civilian LEO's. The military is under the UCMJ and double jeopardy is allowed reaching into crimes against civilians or civilian jurisdictions. You screw up you will be punished and not just allowed to resign.

Military units operate in squads meaning someone is there to keep it honest. Cops no longer have ride along partners. I think they should return to a two man patrol of senior and junior officers. Senior Officer status should be designated as one having at least a ten year unblemished record as a patrol officer.

The mental profile of some cops is disturbing. Bad cops have always been among us. But up till the last decade or so they did not have weapons more powerful than civilians.

My late F.I.L. years ago was a career LEO serving on the THP, KCSO, and UT Police force in Tennessee. He was one of the worse of the worse. He once ran a county Penal Farm which his actions likely triggered an escape an infamous manhunt in the early 1960's in east Tennessee. He ran the place like it was hell. He ran his home like it was hell. He loved to inflict pain upon others. I can not imagine a sadist like him being given the firepower and Carte Blanche powers to act like Roman soldiers as being allowed today. The Blue Shield of silences kept his abuses from ever being known.

Cops need to go back to traditional rolls on traditional patrols. Go back to being a part of the community rather than detached from it as some sort of overlord.

SWAT Teams? OK fine. No automatic weapons except in a clear hostage situation. No more no knock raids except in a known hostage situation. Arrest should be encouraged to be done by uniformed officer where the subject is in plain sight. SWAT Teams should not be making routine raids. SWAT TEAMs again except in the case of hostage situations should be required to wear their patrol uniform.

I can go to a flea market and find a black tee shirt with AFT, FBI, etc written on it. A patrol uniform stands out and is recognizable to innocents of which cops should be protecting. Last thing. There is no excuse for WRONG HOUSE RAIDS. Do the darn police work. That means stake outs, watching the person you're after, and never, ever doing a raid on the word of some paid informant {AKA Junkie}. Many wrong house raids are cause by very sloppy police work in some cases I see it as criminal.

32 posted on 06/27/2014 7:26:46 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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33 posted on 06/27/2014 7:28:11 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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