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Gay marriage: Top US Presbyterian Council Approves Same-Sex Weddings
Guardian (UK) ^ | June 19, 2014

Posted on 06/19/2014 6:49:42 PM PDT by Steelfish

Gay marriage: Top US Presbyterian Council Approves Same-Sex Weddings Substantial majority on national assembly votes to recognise unions of 'two people' and let ministers hold ceremonies

19 June 2014

The top legislative body of the Presbyterian church in the US has voted by a large margin to recognize same-sex marriage as Christian in the church constitution, adding language that marriage can be the union of "two people," not just "a man and a woman".

The amendment approved by the Presbyterian General Assembly requires approval from a majority of the 172 regional presbyteries, which will vote on the change over the next year. But in a separate policy change that takes effect at the end of this week's meeting delegates voted to allow ministers to preside at gay weddings in states where the unions are legal and local congregational leaders approve. Nineteen states and the District of Columbia recognize same-sex marriage.

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An example of what happens when heretic brands of Christianity get to interpret Scripture accord to their own lights.
1 posted on 06/19/2014 6:49:42 PM PDT by Steelfish
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marriage can be the union of "two people," not just "a man and a woman".

Why only two? Why only people? Not very inclusive or affirming, are they?

2 posted on 06/19/2014 6:52:08 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Steelfish

They done lost the Savior way back. All else is details.


3 posted on 06/19/2014 6:53:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

“My Three Gay-Married Sons!”


4 posted on 06/19/2014 6:54:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Steelfish

You cannot legislate the Word of God.

It is what it is and is forever settled.

Heretics.


5 posted on 06/19/2014 6:56:10 PM PDT by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Sadly, that is the truth. They replaced with the Truth with man’s the whims of a corrupt culture.


6 posted on 06/19/2014 6:59:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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And the Presbys are big into the divest, boycott from Israel campaigns all the while their numbers are shrinking and pushing their anti-God agenda.

Presbyterian Church (USA) disinvestment from Israel controversy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterian_Church_%28USA%29_disinvestment_from_Israel_controversy

Presbyterian Church takes step towards divesting from Israeli military-linked companies
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/06/presbyterian-divesting-companies.html

Reform leader urges Presbyterians to reconsider divestment from Israel, meet Netanyahu instead
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.600060

With Declining Ranks, Does a Presbyterian Boycott of Israel Even Matter?
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/06/19/with-declining-ranks-does-a-presbyterian-boycott-of-israel-even-matter/


7 posted on 06/19/2014 7:00:02 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

That’s just the fizzle on the cake.


8 posted on 06/19/2014 7:05:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Steelfish

My grandmother went to a Presbyterian church from the 1960s through the 80s (just that I know of) and she would turn over in her grave over this.


9 posted on 06/19/2014 7:29:11 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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My guess is a ploy to get younger members,


10 posted on 06/19/2014 7:29:58 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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Might as well fold up that so called “church”.


11 posted on 06/19/2014 7:32:19 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: Steelfish

Freakshow


12 posted on 06/19/2014 7:33:24 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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>> marriage can be the union of "two people" <<

Polygaphobes!! Hateful bigots! What right do they have to tell THREE people they're not allowed to LOVE each other?! How would they like it if the polygamy community didn't allow THEIR marriages between two people!

< sarcasm>

13 posted on 06/19/2014 7:42:44 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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Thank you for encouraging me to look up the difference between heretic and apostate (and schismatic, along with them).

Heresy is a sin because of its nature it is destructive of the virtue of Christian faith. Its malice is to be measured therefore by the excellence of the good gift of which it deprives the soul. Now faith is the most precious possession of man, the root of his supernatural life, the pledge of his eternal salvation. Privation of faith is therefore the greatest evil, and deliberate rejection of faith is the greatest sin. St. Thomas (II-II, Q. x, a. 3) arrives at the same conclusion thus: “All sin is an aversion from God. A sin, therefore, is the greater the more it separates man from God. But infidelity does this more than any other sin, for the infidel (unbeliever) is without the true knowledge of God: his false knowledge does not bring him help, for what he opines is not God: manifestly, then, the sin of unbelief ( infidelitas) is the greatest sin in the whole range of perversity.”


14 posted on 06/19/2014 7:59:08 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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Abandoning Christianity .....

The Church never can and never will give satisfaction—and the homosexualist knows it, for he knows the words against him are ineradicable—to the declared and impenitent homosexual, the person who, through an act of the vermiculate will, has identified his person with a sin, whether he demands acceptance of his sin through "love," or vindication through identification of his perceived enemies as bigots. Whether he presents himself as an object of love or indignation, what he demands in either case is acceptance not of the person, but of the sin-bound and sin-defined person. He demands the declaration of spiritual authority that there is nothing objectively disordered about this binding of man to sin, and assurance that this monstrous amalgam can indeed enter the kingdom of heaven. This can never happen among Christians until they abandon Christianity, which is at war with every sin, and whose indelible constitution places all perversions of the perfect man at the muzzle of its canons.

Just Christians (On Homosexuality & Christian Identity)

15 posted on 06/19/2014 8:00:35 PM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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Doesn’t prophesy say that in the last days many shall fall away from the faith?

Or maybe the Presby’s never had faith to lose in the first place, I don’t know.


16 posted on 06/19/2014 8:03:03 PM PDT by Paulie
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(to recognize same-sex marriage as Christian in the church constitution)

God will not be mocked.......


17 posted on 06/19/2014 8:07:39 PM PDT by 48th SPS
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Going to require a radically revised Romans Chapter 1. Modern MetroPresby version.


18 posted on 06/19/2014 8:25:21 PM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: sickoflibs

There are plenty of good Presbyterian denominations. Presbyterian Church of America, the Evangelical Presbyterian Church, and the Cumberland Presbytherian Church. They are all growing; the PC-USA is shrinking.

Problem is that the press lauds them because they are a failed church, and they are also the oldest with the prettiest buildings.


19 posted on 06/19/2014 8:26:43 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: sickoflibs
My guess is a ploy to get younger members,

What's the point of getting younger members if the church is no longer a Christian church? I have been convinced for quite a few years that the Presbyterian church has become apostate. I am not Presbyterian, but if I was I would be out the door and off the membership roll before God judges these apostates who insist on calling themselves Christians just as if they actually believed in the Lord Jesus Christ and respected His holy institution of marriage between man and woman.

if they don't believe what God has to say about homosexual debauchery in His Word (hint, hint,--- he aint in favor of it) then they should simply stop calling their social club a Church and go whole hog into human-animal hook-ups of all kinds. And why stop with same-sex so-called "marriage"? Why not man-dog marriage, or pig-woman hook-up, or any other combination of livestock and humans? Or for a little variety, maybe fish-man or lobster-woman?

I started to say that God must be laughing at their nonsense, but on 2nd thought I think it's much more likely that He's crying. Why? Because His sinless Son died in their place to save them from hell, and they're making a mockery of one of His most sacred institutions, i.e., marriage for life between one man and one woman.

20 posted on 06/19/2014 8:53:00 PM PDT by epow ("In the beginning GOD created the heavens and earth" Genesis 1:1)
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