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To: caww

I agree that it doesn’t look good.

One thing the Ukraine government hasn’t done well, is give good up to date information to the West.

Of course nothing would help this situation, but it could have helped all along if there had been more to go on.

Even Pupin has had to couch his actions.

It’s a real shame that area is going through this. You’ve got a foreign government, a few hot-heads and an incompetant internal government all willing to screw over the general populace.


123 posted on 06/03/2014 5:32:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

...”One thing the Ukraine government hasn’t done well, is give good up to date information to the West”....

It’s been difficult for them to do so because the Gov. has made numerous errors of judgement which consistently backfire.. So the best they can do is claim there’s not enough information to arrive at a conclusion..or it takes time...or report a false story...whatever stall might be necessary until the next major crisis, which to date and for the most part they continue to create.

(Personally I think the US is calling the shots in a nation they haven’t a clue of it’s culture nor how things work there. Look at the mess they’re making here in the states...so no surprise they are screwing things up there.)

Unfortunately , as with many foreign nations who have little understanding of democracy, so too with Ukriane. In their minds Maidan ‘won’ and that is that....winner takes all. Yet all the factions accustomed to their “turf” and their cut are NOT going to co-operate with the whole without a “price”. An election is not going to fix that as we see Maiden begin, again, to revolt in the square now.

One of the many advantages Putin has is he does understand the culture of the people over there who believe in order to win you have to fight, steal and kill, and don’t actually hide it because it’s the norm......Ukraine’s corruption and brutality even surpasses Russia according to the records, so it must be seen in that light.

Your correct even Putin has had to bend his actions but his motives are self-serving and for Russia’s benefit. Just as the moves the US/Eu are making is for theirs.

I will stand on what I believe.. that this is a very standard move when the Globalist makes a move on a country...ad is going exactly as we’ve seen in the past. The difference is Russia is a nuclear power, and controls much of the oil. The East is far more valuable to Putin then it is the US or Europe.

I also agree, as you know, that losers here are the Ukrainian people and will be down the road as well.

I said they would nationalize the companies...they are doing so...then they will sell them to International Companies...Their Insurance and Utilities will also go out of the hands of Ukrainians.....Next step will be to make certain Ukraine is debt-ridden for years in order to strong arm them when they want.


126 posted on 06/03/2014 7:17:19 PM PDT by caww
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