Posted on 05/21/2014 6:25:19 PM PDT by crz
The Slide Rock Fire, in the well known are of Oak Creek Canyon, north of Sedona, has grown to some 4000 plus acres.
That has to be a fun ride on bikes. Another no doubt would be on 89A on the way to Prescott and all.
I was on that Mingus Mt. stretch going through some curves and a guy in a Toyota Taco passed me on a curve at about 60 mph while I was doing 45 or 50. I could not believe anyone could be so dumb.
We were staying in Cottonwood and came in from the Sedona side. But yes, that was on our way out of the canyon. It was Saturday and there was incredible crowds. Taking pics was difficult but I got these on the way out. We traveled through Flagstaff and on to Williams for lunch. This was all new to me as I live in San Diego. SD was on fire when I rolled out of here last Thursday. Now that area is on fire. It’s going to be a tough summer.
that’s a pretty cool machine. I know Arizona and California both have permit programs where regular folk can go in and get two or more cords of dead and fallwood for firewood, but brush is always an issue, and that machine looks like to will handle that problem just fine.
Tomorrow, I think I will put up a thread on the pollution created by these fires and the prescribed burns the fire bugs set at the USFS.
Some of the top forestry schools in the nation did a study on them. It is far worse than anyone thinks.
Cut to length operations, are the most environmentally sensible logging methods possible. Granted, in some areas like the Pacific Northwest, they can not be done, but these operations-cut to length, can and do operate on 12 percent slopes. Tree length, or whole tree, are destructive and damaging. That is a proven fact.
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It has been a disaster in waiting. The USFS has been dancing to the tune of the eco freaks for years and now they decided to try and thin those forests out...AFTER they helped drive the wood manufacturing (sawmills, pulpmills) out of the state.
Now there is no place to go with the timber. So they decide to put in place this 4 FRI program..a government subsidies program to have a company come in an establish plants to use that timber. They let the contract to a guy who had gone bankrupt before, had a couple such contracts take away from him and THEN, he transfers the contract to a foreign company which is...you guessed it-A GREEN ENERGY Corp. Owned by a mideast oil baron and financed in part, by..you guessed it again..A CHINESE FIRM.
Here is the facts. The corporation that actually won that 4FRI bid was disqualified BECAUSE, the USFS did not want to deal with a company that used that natural resource solely for building material..it was an OSB board manufacturing corporation. They actually bid millions more on that contract.
So, they awarded the contract to an outfit that had no capital to perform-no machinery, no financing, and poor experience. They then claimed that the mill in Heber was the lynchpin to the operation. Yet the man who owned and ran that mill in Heber, a first class crook and shyster, and also filed bankruptcy, got into the act. To top it all off, the main point man, is a former USFS employee for the people whom the contract was awarded.
Here is a little secret. I personally know a very high up in one of the biggest AMERICAN forest products manufacturing corporations in the USA. Before this all went down, and was in its very initial stages, they went to the USFS and offered to put in the proper plants, manage the logging, do all the work, and make it right. The USFS turned them down. They suspect that the USFS had gone on the take for one, and for the second, this corporation told the USFS they would bring in experienced logging crews from other states as well as local crews-something the local loggers do not want.
Now we see the effects of this mismanagement of a resource by the USFS, which have been infiltrated by anti management eco nuts. So they transferred that contract to a GREEN ENERGY COMPANY.
http://www.sfreporter.com/santafe/article-7515-up-in-smoke.html
Zane Grey lived along the Mogollon Rim north and east of Payson, AZ.
Please get this information out to the local conservative talk stations in Tucson. I am sure Garrett Lewis 790A KNST on his morning show and James T Harris at 104.1FM The Truth in the afternoon would be very interested.
God Bless You for being aware and telling others.
just a little update. Slide rock at 7500 acres, 5% contained. Believed to be man-made. One of the fire guys said the trees are so dry they are flashing into ash. (is that possible?)
“The fuels are just so dry, entire trees are turning to ash,” said Dick Fleishman, a spokesman for fire managers.
A primary focus of firefighting efforts will be to pinch off the fire where it has reached the top of the canyon’s northeast corner to keep it from burning northward toward residential areas, he said.
Sciacca said 500 firefighters were assigned to the fire Thursday
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Many-residents-flee-as-Slide-Fire-grows-260249701.html
The snags might. And there are a lot of them. If you look at the burn map you so kindly linked me to, you will note the west and east fingers up top. At that end, if you switch to sat on the map, you can see the more clear areas ahead of it. Those are the areas we logged. The fires stopped dead right there. Further ahead, at Fort Tuthill, you can also see the areas we logged. To the west of those, there is areas where state land meets federal land and the state land is really thick timbered-I would put it at over 100 BSA-it should be at no more than 50 BSA. That fire gets to there and it is another huge problem.
I think they got this fire licked as to those areas. The problem remains down in the canyon. AND it all depends on the weather.
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