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To: INVAR
BJP = Hindu Cultural Hegemony

Very little chance corruption will decrease -- it is endemic. Might or might not be moves toward capitalism in certain sectors. Guaranteed that Christians won't be better off than they were before.

142 posted on 05/20/2014 12:13:06 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86
BJP = Hindu Cultural Hegemony

Very little chance corruption will decrease -- it is endemic. Might or might not be moves toward capitalism in certain sectors. Guaranteed that Christians won't be better off than they were before.

Exactly what the Christian brethren in India have told me and what I think will prove to be the case.

Hindu culture does NOT in any way, shape or form, permit low castes and/or those outside their caste station (i.e.: CHRISTIANS) from advancing or bettering themselves because Hindu religion demands that those born into low castes or outside of accepted stations must suffer to pay for the sins of their past lives.

The upper castes will be the only ones to benefit from Modi's Capitalist reforms. Trickle Down is not something that is possible in Indian society - because they fight against it now.

It's the Ruling Caste in India, same as the Ruling Classes here work to deny and prohibit us lowly 'unwashed Tea Party types' from advancing our agenda and principles via our representatives.

143 posted on 05/20/2014 12:37:04 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: steve86; INVAR
Let's take your points 1 by 1, steve:

  1. Hindu cultural hegemony --> "cultural", then yes. And note that even Catholics and other Christians are culturally "Hindu" i.e. Indian -- remember that many Christians remember if they are Brahmins as well -- go to Mangalore and you'll see many descendents of Shenoys and Prabhus who are Christian
    Hindu RELIGIOUS hegemony -- I doubt it. There is the possibility of Hindu riots against Christian, but I doubt that Modi would do anything like this now when people will want him to focus on getting the economy into shape. We can worry about that in the last of his 5 years. that time has a higher probability
  2. "very little chance corruption will decrease - it is enemic" -- corruption has decreased in India since the ending of the license raj -- it is endemic, but is decreasing. Also, as Modi showed in Gujarat, he did decrease corruption
  3. " Guaranteed that Christians won't be better off than they were before" -- actually Christians in the past 20 years have arguably benefited the most with economic reforms. Why? Because Christians are better educated and tend to know English. Also, Christians aren't part of the elite class of business men etc. (generally), so the dismantling of those privileges will disproportionately help Christians

150 posted on 05/21/2014 3:14:18 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: steve86; INVAR
INVAR: Hindu culture does NOT in any way, shape or form, permit low castes and/or those outside their caste station (i.e.: CHRISTIANS) from advancing or bettering themselves because Hindu religion demands that those born into low castes or outside of accepted stations must suffer to pay for the sins of their past lives.

Invar, then how do you explain the fact that the untouchables are the ones that have advanced the most in UP in the past 15 years? unlike Brahmins they are not tied to land, so have used their educational gains to help improve their lot heavily

In fact Modi himself knocks out your statement -- he's an OBC -- other backward Caste, not a Brahmin, not a Kshatriya (ruling warrior caste) -- yet he's now the ruler over Brahmins, defeating Brahmins (the Gandhi family are Kashmiri Pandit Brahmins) as well as defeating the Brahmin Advani in his own BJP party

Hindu culture -- you can't call Hindu culture as rigidly "you can't do this as its your caste" -- example Valmiki, a non-Brahmin writing the Ramayana or the Bhonsale (Brahmin)ruling the Maharashrans

Granted, those are outliers and the majority strain for the past hundreds of years has been the opposite, but Hindu culture evolves

The upper castes will be the only ones to benefit from Modi's Capitalist reforms. Trickle Down is not something that is possible in Indian society - because they fight against it now. -- sorry, but you have the example of Gujarat where Modi was the Chief Minister for 14 years and in that, the upper castes were NOT the only ones to benefit -- even Moslems benefitted

151 posted on 05/21/2014 3:21:51 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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