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The Most Dishonest Amnesty Poll Yet
National Review ^ | 5/16/14 | Mark Krikorian

Posted on 05/16/2014 9:34:07 AM PDT by jimbo123

Michael Bloomberg and Rupert Murdoch’s Partnership for a New American Economy (a.k.a. Billionaires for Open Borders) has released what may be the most ridiculously skewed pro-amnesty poll I’ve seen. The poll, conducted by McLlaughlin & Associates, is timed to coincide with Tea Party Express executive Sal Russo’s teaming up with Grover Norquist to push amnesty (they both co-sponsored the poll as well); it purports to show that even tea-party people support Chuck Schumer’s amnesty bill, so get on with it already, Boehner!

The mendacity of the whole exercise becomes apparent when you read the actual questions. After a few setup questions you get to this (all the emphases are mine):

7. SOME MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVE PROPOSED A PLAN FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT WOULD INCLUDE BOTH IMPROVED BORDER SECURITY AND ENFORCEMENT, AS WELL AS A WAY FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE ALREADY IN THIS COUNTRY TO STAY IN THIS COUNTRY, IF THEY PAY PENALTIES, PAY BACK TAXES, PASS A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK AND LEARN ENGLISH AND AMERICAN CIVICS.WOULD YOU SUPPORT OR OPPOSE THIS PLAN?

Pretty standard so far — using the left’s “undocumented” label and repeating the “back taxes” and “learn English” lies — there, is in fact no such proposal.

The next question might be the most dishonest:

8. WOULD YOU SUPPORT OR OPPOSE IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT WOULD REQUIRE WE REDUCE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BY AT LEAST 90% BEFORE GRANTING LEGAL STATUS TO ANY UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT WHO IS ALREADY IN THE UNITED STATES, IMPLEMENTS THE E-VERIFY SYSTEM THAT REQUIRES ALL EMPLOYERS TO INSTANTLY CHECK IF SOMEONE IS HERE LEGALLY AND ELIGIBLE TO WORK BEFORE THEY’RE HIRED, AND PROHIBITS ANY IMMIGRANT FROM BEING ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE ANY TAXPAYER FUNDED BENEFIT LIKE WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS OR MEDICAID UNTIL THEY HAVE BECOME A CITIZEN?

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; grovernorquist; massamnesty; michaelbloomberg; rupertmurdoch

1 posted on 05/16/2014 9:34:07 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: All
The Senate amnesty bill is dangerously flawed, and its glaring omissions WRT protecting US ntl security, cannot ever serve as the basis for useful legislation.

By legalizing illegal aliens w/out shoring up law enforcement, we hand an engraved invitation to global Third Worlders----all of 'em salivating to ride the US gravy train.....each seperatist group conniving to achieve its hidden agenda.

Amnesty recklessly opens the door wide for illiterate, low-skilled aliens, born and bred in savage cultures, here to suck up US benefits and take jobs away from Americans.

Third Worlders may, in fact, contribute their labor to the US, but their loyalties are elsewhere----they have no intention of becoming Americanized....of participating as equals in American culture, revering our vast history, or preserving American values.

The Senate amnesty bill is a blueprint----it amply demonstrates that illegal separatist populations intend to usurp the US political system to advance their own hidden agenda.

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Immigration “reform” includes two “slush funds” amounting to $150,000,000 that may be supplemented with additional taxpayer dollars for years to come, earmarked for non-profit organizations such as the blood-thirsty La Raza.

LA RAZA TEACHING HATE-AMERICA WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS La Raza Studies do not even try to sugar-coat its anti-America agenda and its bloodthirsty plans to kill off Americans: Raza Studies textbook “Occupied America,” by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a violent and blood-curdling speech given by university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is, if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him,” (pg. 323).

The following is taken directly from La Raza's Occupied America (pg. 167): “.......execute all white males over age 16,” (AKA the Plan of San Diego).

America-hating Raza Studies teach (1) violence, (2) undermining US ntl security, and, (3) the need for Mexico to "re-take seven states in the Southwest...in order to make the SW a Chicano nation. "

SCHOOL BOARD NUT CASES Adelita Grijalva is the woman on the Arizona school board pimping La Raza indoctrination programs in Tuscon schools. Adelita is all up in arms about Raza Studies getting tossed via the AZ state legislature's action...she is the daughter of Raul Grijalva (D-AZ-7).

Cong Raul Grijalva is one of Mexico’s most productive and loyal Fifth Column in the US Congress....aiding and abetting the latino criminal underworld, colluding to take back the SW, and loot and pillage the US treasury.

Raul and friend.

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Republican Sen Charles Grassley tried to protect Americans w/ this amendment to the amnesty bill: "Congress should not thumb its nose at the millions of Americans who are victims of identity theft, often perpetrated by an undocumented person who steals Social Security numbers to get jobs, govt benefits, driver's licenses and more. This amendment will simply require the person applying for RPI status to disclose any previously used Social Security numbers," said Grassley. "It's the first step to helping clean up the mess that's been created for the victim of identity theft. The amendment also authorizes certain federal agencies, upon receipt of this information, to notify individuals who were the victims."

SEN SCHUMER WENT PROSTRATE, GOT OUT THE LIP BALM, AND PUCKERED UP: Dismissing Sen Grassley's proposal, Sen Schumer (Dimwit-NY) said: "When people are living in undocumented status, there are times, I suppose, when they've made up identities, made up Social Security numbers. How are they going to remember all that? (The) purpose of this bill is to bring people out of the shadows. We all know when they lived in the shadows, they had to forge documents, forge Social Security numbers, et cetera. I just don't see how, when you've lived here 10 years, and you've had many different identities, many different numbers, you're going to remember them all," said Schumer.

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A PROTECTION RACKET EMBEDDED IN US LAW Would you believe the amnesty bill actually protects corrupt Latino Public Officials from US laws and from prosecution.......only latino pols, mind you.

Vote-crazed Dems allow amnesty to absolve elected/appointed latinos holding US public office from prosecution for wrongdoing---for crimes like government fraud, graft, bribery, selling votes for cash....(the usual politician crimes).

There really is a Ntl Assoc of Latino Elected and Appt Officials organized for govt fraud.

NANCY SUCKS UP at Ntl Assoc of Latino Elected and Appt Officials Gala in DC
L-R--Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ);
Dr Salomon Melgen (under scrutiny for corrupt deals w/ Sen Menendez);
Rep Nancy Pelosi (Dimwit-CAL); Francisco
J. Sanchez, US Under Secy of Commerce for Intl Trade,
Emilio Sanchez, Pres/CEO of VOXXI.

2 posted on 05/16/2014 9:38:54 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Kenny Bunk
The IRS sent $45 Million/32,000 EITC refunds to illegals at ONE address.

IRS knowingly sends Billions in Fraudulent Refunds to Illegal Immigrants
Town Hall ^ | Mar 30, 2013 | Bob Beauprez / FR Posted by Texas Fossil

A WTHR-TV Indianapolis investigative report exposes a fraudulent scheme wherein the IRS is sending $4.2 billion per year to illegal immigrants as an "additional child tax credit" for children who don't even live in the U.S. Further, the IRS and Congress have been ignoring the scheme for years. The Inspector General's office has repeatedly identified the problem in audit after audit. The IG, Russell George says, "The magnitude of the problem has grown exponentially," but the IRS is doing nothing to stop it. "It's so easy it's ridiculous," the tax preparer whistleblower who exposed the fraud admits.

Names are simply listed on the IRS form. "The more you put on there, the more you get back." No questions asked…the check's in the mail. Video on youtube of this shocking report. (Excerpt) Read more at finance.townhall.com

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Senator Harry Reid Supports Giving Illegal Aliens Tax Credits for Kids Not Even Living in US
Townhall.com | October 30, 2013 | Mike Shedlock / FR Posted by Kaslin

US Rep. Sam Johnson, R-Texas, wants to end the practice of giving illegal immigrants tax credits for kids, but U.S. Sen.

Harry Reid, D-Nev., won’t let the House-approved measure H.R. 556 through the Senate. "The System is Working Fine" says Senator Harry Reid, even though the Joint Committee on Taxation calculates that enactment of H.R. 556 would save taxpayers $24.4 billion over the next decade.

The House of Representatives repeatedly has passed an IRS bill that could save U.S. taxpayers up to $24.4 billion over the next 10 years — but Harry Reid’s Democratic Senate will not hear it.

The Refundable Child Tax Credit Eligibility Verification Reform Act, or H.R. 556, would require tax filers to provide Social Security numbers to claim child tax credits.

Currently, the IRS allows undocumented residents to collect the $1,000 credits for dependents not even living in the country.

Watchdog reported that illegal immigrants received $4.2 billion from the tax agency in just one year. “My bill (targets) billions of dollars in waste, fraud and abuse. Instead of hitting up taxpayers for even more taxes, Washington needs to go after these billions of dollars,” said Rep. Johnson, R-Texas.

Though the GOP-controlled House has passed Johnson’s measure three times, Senate Majority Leader Reid, D-Nev., refuses to allow the bill to come up for a vote in his chamber. “The IRS has been doling out the credit to tax filers claiming children who do not even live in the country,” Johnson charged.

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Welcome to the Obama culture where falsifying US govt documents for govt freebies is a form of "American assimilation."

3 posted on 05/16/2014 9:41:06 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

I have come to expect nothing but lies from both sides of the aisle on amnesty. Deport them all, secure the borders and THEN we’ll talk immigration reform.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 9:53:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: jimbo123; NFHale
RE :’7. SOME MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVE PROPOSED A PLAN FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT WOULD INCLUDE BOTH IMPROVED BORDER SECURITY AND ENFORCEMENT.....”

A plan? That's what its called?

Enforcement?

I recall that Federal law enforcement is up to the sole discretion of the AG and his boss Obama.

The GOP house cant pass anything that enforces anything, not even the silly ‘enforce the laws’ bill they passed.

If the house could pass a bill that really enforces laws Holder would be in jail now, and a bunch more with him.

5 posted on 05/16/2014 9:57:03 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'I never said that you can keep your doctor . Republicans lie about me ')
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To: jimbo123

We should start with deporting everyone that doesn’t Speak, read, write, and understand English.

I’m sick of their gibberish, no matter the language they are gibbering in!

If they can’t produce an unexpired tourist visa, at the first gibber out of their mouth they would be on a barge headed for the southern tip of Mexico. French, Chinese, whatever, they would all be on the same barge.


6 posted on 05/16/2014 10:46:20 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yup. There is only one reason for amnesty, and that is to secure the existing scum in positions of power, primarily the Rats, but some Pubes as well, those who are in cahoots with the Rats.


7 posted on 05/16/2014 12:34:24 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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To: jimbo123

Some people may take that poll to mean you are deporting 9.9 million illegals out of 12 million illegals when it says 90%.


8 posted on 05/16/2014 11:11:49 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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