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1 posted on 05/14/2014 6:47:00 AM PDT by blam
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He is misinformed, as teachers are not paid for the summer months when school is not in session, leaving many teachers working summer jobs to make ends meet.

Semantics. You can just as easily conclude the salary they're paid is for the entire year, and not just nine months. I'm sure there are different districts that spread the pay over the entire year rather than simply the time school is in session.
2 posted on 05/14/2014 6:50:48 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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So I noticed you took it on yourself to add the part about not being paid 8 weeks vacation every year. First, you are wrong….they are paid an annual salary, it just all comes in 44 weeks not 52. They are then allowed 8-9 weeks a year where they can supplement their income, which is fine.

But i sense a liberal agenda on your part….wondering what it was.


3 posted on 05/14/2014 6:51:09 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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Perhaps school districts in NC don’t pay their teachers through the summer months but here in Ohio, they get paid every month of the year. Yes, some teachers do get summer jobs to supplement their income, but get that check every two weeks year round and I am related to several who like to brag about getting that check while laying around their own in ground pools.


4 posted on 05/14/2014 6:51:16 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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5 posted on 05/14/2014 6:51:45 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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I’m not a teacher but I’m embarrassed that I’m not being paid enough money too.


6 posted on 05/14/2014 6:51:53 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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I’d be interested to know what the pay scale is for teachers in NC.

Here in PA, they have nothing to complain about (but they do anyway). In some districts locally, even some music and PE teachers make upward of $90K for their 9-months of work, depending on their level of tenure and education.


7 posted on 05/14/2014 6:52:48 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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First, it is a fallacy to claim that teachers "aren't paid" for the summer months. In most cases, they can opt to receive their salary over 9 or 12 months, but they still get a full year's salary.

Second, I wonder if this teacher has any idea how much her school superintendent and other administrative employees make.

8 posted on 05/14/2014 6:54:47 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwellou)
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I am married to a retired teacher. Yes, she did work hard. Yes, making lesson plans for the next week took up most of her Saturdays during the school year.

But, there was a lot of B.S. that she had to put up with. Why, because education in this country has lost its way.

I used to tell her, when she was exacerbated that any organization is only as good as its leadership is good, and the people in it can only be as good as the leadership allows them to be good.

IMHO. Leadership is the problem. Look at our government and its leaders. A sorry bunch that has created a sorry mess.

10 posted on 05/14/2014 6:57:25 AM PDT by Parmy
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Considering the quality of the ‘product’ teachers produce; I would argue that they are way OVERPAID.


12 posted on 05/14/2014 6:58:31 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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Boo Hoo. Get a new job and see what the real world is like.

In Texas the average teacher salary is well over 40K per year BUT as a teacher they only have to work about 9 months to earn that salary. They also get retirement benefits far in excess of nearly anything in the private sector. Most in the private sector can't imagine having a "pension" of any kind.

I sick of hearing this poor teacher crap. try getting a job in the real world where they tax your income away to pay for people who complain about having to work 9 months out of the year.

We need to get rid of government run education. Move all schools to the private sector.

14 posted on 05/14/2014 7:00:34 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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Teachers get 8 weeks off in the summer, but 2 or 3 weeks off during the year as well.

They also get 2 or 3 hours off each day compared to other workers.

They also get full benefits, as if they worked full hours.

They are also employees for life in many jurisdictions, as long as they can manage not to disrobe around their students - a stricture that seems increasingly difficult for teachers to handle.

And, yes, we've all heard "But I work extra hours on my lesson plans!" and "I went out and bought markers and construction paper for my kids because the mean taxpayers don't want learning to be fun!" etc., etc.

99% of teachers are time serving robots by the time they get tenure.

16 posted on 05/14/2014 7:05:58 AM PDT by wideawake
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I’m embarrassed that you are a teacher, as well...............


18 posted on 05/14/2014 7:07:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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>>(He is misinformed, as teachers are not paid for the summer months when school is not in session, leaving many teachers working summer jobs to make ends meet.)

BULLS***. You can’t get a 10-month salary anymore because too many teachers wouldn’t save for their summer vacation and would go moneyless over the summer. EVERY salary is 12-month. You get paid throughout the year, even though you’re not paid for summer months. Your summer job is EXTRA PAY in ADDITION to your monthly paycheck.


23 posted on 05/14/2014 7:18:11 AM PDT by struggle
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I was recently at a party and spent considerable time talking to a couple who are recently retired Wisconsin public school teachers. They complained about their pay, their pensions, the lack of public respect for teachers, Scott Walker, and the rest of the usual litany of complaints.

Near the end of the party the wife went on a loud rant about poor pay for "highly educated" teachers and how she had been cheated by the system. So I asked her: "If teaching was such a bad deal and money was so important, why didn't you find a different career?" She then finally shut up.

24 posted on 05/14/2014 7:19:32 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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I’m embarrassed to be a taxpayer paying these teachers a salary.


26 posted on 05/14/2014 7:24:22 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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Wiles talked about her concerns that teachers were not being paid enough

I think it's horrible how this poor woman was drafted and forced to go to a college and get a degree in "education" and made to labor away in a job that doesn't pay her what she thinks she is worth. It is an outrage that this kind of forced servitude at the barrel of a gun exists in the 21st century!

27 posted on 05/14/2014 7:29:08 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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I live in NC and I am embarrassed by the poor quality of public education in the county where I live. It’s a poor, rural county, ranks extremely low in the state for test scores but our superintendant is one of the highest paid.


28 posted on 05/14/2014 7:41:36 AM PDT by kalee
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‘Passing the trash’


Too often, problem teachers are allowed to leave quietly. That can mean future abuse for another student and another school district.

“They might deal with it internally, suspending the person or having the person move on. So their license is never investigated,” says Charol Shakeshaft, a leading expert in teacher sex abuse who heads the educational leadership department at Virginia Commonwealth University.

It’s a dynamic so common it has its own nicknames—“passing the trash” or the “mobile molester.”

Laws in several states require that even an allegation of sexual misconduct be reported to the state departments that oversee teacher licenses. But there’s no consistent enforcement, so such laws are easy to ignore.

School officials fear public embarrassment as much as the perpetrators do, Shakeshaft says. They want to avoid the fallout from going up against a popular teacher. They also don’t want to get sued by teachers or victims, and they don’t want to face a challenge from a strong union.


30 posted on 05/14/2014 7:42:42 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Forgotten Study: Abuse in School 100 Times Worse than by Priests

 


31 posted on 05/14/2014 7:44:37 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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In my wife’s school district every year they have 500 or so applicants for 60 or so open teaching positions. I would invite any teacher who feels underpaid to change careers and get the salary he or she “deserves.” I am sure that the district could easily replace a teacher with one of the 440 other applicants who apparently find the pay acceptable.


36 posted on 05/14/2014 7:53:31 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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