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What if race is more than a social construct?
Globe & Mail ^ | 5/10/2014

Posted on 05/10/2014 12:45:28 PM PDT by Altura Ct.

Nicholas Wade, a leading science writer whose specialty is human evolution, likes to ask interesting questions. Here are some examples:

Why has the West been the most exploratory and innovative civilization in the world for the past 500 years?

Why are Jews of European descent so massively overrepresented among the top achievers in the arts and sciences?

Why is the Chinese diaspora successful all around the world?

Why is it so difficult to modernize tribal societies?

Why has economic development been so slow in Africa?

Contemporary thinkers have offered lots of provocative answers for such questions. It’s all about geography. Or institutions. Or rice culture. Or the devastating legacy of colonialism. Or Jewish mothers. Now comes another explanation, one that bravely explores the highly dangerous elephant in the room. Mr. Wade argues that human history has also been profoundly influenced by genetics.

Part of his new book, A Troublesome Inheritance: Genes, Race and Human History, is a summary of new findings in genetic science, and part of it is highly speculative. All of it is bound to be deeply unpopular among social scientists, because it challenges their entrenched belief that race is nothing more than a social construct. The wide diversity in human societies around the world can be explained entirely by culture, they insist. We’re all the same under the skin.

Except we’re not quite. Since the sequencing of the human genome in 2003, evidence of subtle genetic differences has been piling up. As our ancestors branched out of Africa, different groups of people evolved in slightly different ways to adapt to local conditions...

(Excerpt) Read more at theglobeandmail.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: genetics
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To: mrsmel
Speaking of Neanderthals, to all the learned people here-what significance does it have that all races, except blacks, have traces of Neanderthal genes, if I am understanding it correctly?

Most logical explanation is that Neandertals were descended from a previous expansion out of Africa, isolated for 100,000 years or more, developing over this time their distinctive genome.

Modern humans moved out of Africa, displacing or exterminating Neandertals, though mixing with them to a minor extent.

What is reasonably obvious is that those who left Africa were subjected to new evolutionary pressures, those who stayed were not, or at least not to the same extent.

I leave it to others to speculate how this might have affected evolution of increased intelligence and other traits.

121 posted on 05/10/2014 4:35:44 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: polymuser
I guess genetics affects some organs, but never the brain.

Yes, genetics affects hair color, height, weight, disposition, tendency toward disease, life span, but definitely NOT the brain in any way shape or form... I'm totally PC...

122 posted on 05/10/2014 4:38:53 PM PDT by GOPJ (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator. - - Freeper Balding_Eagle)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
... Intellectualism beng an admired trait, resulting in reproductive preference.

Yes. So, what admired trait results in reproduction among the various races?

123 posted on 05/10/2014 4:39:02 PM PDT by polymuser
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To: Sherman Logan

Thank you for replying, and for explaining in layman’s terms.


124 posted on 05/10/2014 4:42:44 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: GOPJ

lol


125 posted on 05/10/2014 4:43:42 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel

“I disagree. I don’t believe in the white man’s burden anymore.”

I’ve never believed in a “white man’s burden” period. Indeed i find the concept racist and disgusting.

But the reason we need to help the now increasingly separate and self-destructive African american community out of the rut the Democratic party has put them in is because they are as a group now very much a threat to our rights, just as they are a threat to their own.

Until they save themselves and stop waging cultural war upon us, the more prosperous they will be and the safer and freer we will be. As individuals they do need to lift themselves out by their own boot straps. That is the only way anyone ever stands.


126 posted on 05/10/2014 4:49:55 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: GOPJ

It’s a fact — that those guys thought they had the answers to the questions posed in the article.


127 posted on 05/10/2014 4:52:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Lisbon1940; BenLurkin; cripplecreek
Jewish and Chinese cultures place high value on education.

It could be a 'chicken and egg' thing....

If you're smart you tend to think 'being smart' is important.

If you're charming you judge people are how socially graceful they are... and in both cases you would choose to help your children become more of 'what was important'...

Chicken or egg - which came first?

128 posted on 05/10/2014 4:58:26 PM PDT by GOPJ (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator. - - Freeper Balding_Eagle)
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To: mrsmel
Black churches are hotbeds of racist liberation theory, not God-fearing houses of worship.

Some of them are -- but I have, on many occasions, sat in what you would call "black churches" and listened to sound Christian doctrine expounded.

Here's a suggestion, if I may. Visit the churches in your area which have predominately black congregations. If the "preaching" is too political move to another until you find one which preaches Christ and the Gospel.

Maybe even join. You won't regret it.

129 posted on 05/10/2014 5:01:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Sherman Logan

a “solution”


This is the old genetics vs environment argument. Now depending on what you think is the cause, the solution is different. Now which has the EASIER solution?


130 posted on 05/10/2014 5:07:12 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: mrsmel
Not so much that as you deny that the early Europeans are the same gene pool as those that you call "white".

You are unwilling to entertain the possibility that the sudden disappearance of the Neaderthals who flat out owned Europe for 100,000 years through multiple ice ages and interglacials is in any way related to the arrival of the invaders.

You deny the documented fact that "white" people murdered every single Tasmanian they encountered, the documented fact that "white" Romans eliminated the entire population of Romania for Liebestraum, the documented fact that the same Romans turned Carthage into a desert that remains uninhabitable to this day, had "we" succeed in eliminating the Native Americans, you would doubtless discount this murderous intent by blandly saying that a few members of the race linger high in the Andes or at the tip of Tierra del Fuego.

Point being we really are a murderous species, regardless of the color of our skin, or any other surface detail. That we have five races is not a testament to our peaceful nature, we simply don't know if there were ten races before the last few ice ages. We have five survivors, not four, or three, or two or just us (wherever surviving shade is "us") not for want of trying to eliminate the other, but for the failures of those attempts.

With luck that failure will continue until we manage to grow up enough to actually live and let live.

It's too late for Homo Neanderthalus and Homo Denisovian.

131 posted on 05/10/2014 5:21:42 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: Sherman Logan
This is somewhat discredited by recent evidence of Neandertal genes in modern humans.

Yeah. Being able to interbreed and produce viable fertile offspring is the definition of "same species".

132 posted on 05/10/2014 5:23:20 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: BenLurkin
but I have, on many occasions, sat in what you would call "black churches" and listened to sound Christian doctrine expounded.

If that were true, then they would not so completely and utterly, reject Christianity when voting.

133 posted on 05/10/2014 5:28:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: null and void
had "we" succeed in eliminating the Native Americans,

Get real, there was never any policy to eliminate Indians, very few were killed in conflict with the US government.

134 posted on 05/10/2014 5:32:13 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Sherman Logan
The same thing applies to more and more fields. What are we to do with those for whom there is no economic demand?

In the US and other representative democracies, the question will probably be what will they and their leftist political allies do with the rest of society.

If globalizationa and automation continue to make larger and larger portions of society economically unnecessary, then they will vote in the biggest, big government redistributionist central government ever imagined.

A good start has already been made on such a redistributionist central government.

135 posted on 05/10/2014 5:46:30 PM PDT by Will88
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To: ansel12

It’s true, my FRiend. I’m not making it up.


136 posted on 05/10/2014 6:22:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: CondorFlight

Ok...so what does all that have to do with what I posted?


137 posted on 05/10/2014 6:28:32 PM PDT by Harald Westmoreland
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To: Sherman Logan

A very interesting, and most valid point, regarding European history.


138 posted on 05/10/2014 7:03:46 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Corporate Democrat

But if something is true, should it be suppressed just because some people might react badly to it?

Besides, I don’t think most people would react badly. We all know there are differences between men and women, for instance, and most people accept this and don’t have a fit over it. It’s political correctness that’s pitting people against each other and telling some groups they’re being oppressed by other groups.


139 posted on 05/10/2014 7:05:54 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.-Sowell)
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To: Sherman Logan
In fact, highly intelligent people seem to be unusually prone to believing things nobody else would fall for, especially when they are highly abstract theories that “explain everything.” This explains, I suspect, the immense attraction of Marxism for intellectuals for a century.

I rank high in IQ tests and I didn't fall for Marxism, or any other conspiracy theory like that.

It would not be wise to fall for these things, what with the invasion of the Reptilian alien race that put fluoride in the water to control our brain waves so that the Illuminati would conquer the Council For Foreign Relations, so that Cthulu would be awakened and stage another series of fake moon landings.

Oh, by the way, John F. Kennedy was shot by 21 Mafia gunmen.

140 posted on 05/10/2014 7:17:47 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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