Posted on 04/28/2014 10:46:56 AM PDT by Bratch
Basically, you don’t get to be a Citizen for 15 years, so, yes, you don’t get to vote, and you’re not eligible for Social Security in that time either, until you’ve been paying into it.
And if you break ANY more laws, you’re gone - AFTER serving time for the crime and a few extra years for the original crime of breaking in to our Country and thumbing your nose at us.
*PING* Here’s your answer.
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Basically, you don’t get to be a Citizen for 15 years, so, yes, you don’t get to vote, and you’re not eligible for Social Security in that time either, until you’ve been paying into it.Sounds as if they want to set up their own feudal system.
No surprise, they consider themselves the American aristocracy.
I like your ideas but here’s the problem... there are hundreds of millions of people in the world who would be happy to do everything you asked... and some of them could scrape together enough money for a plane ticket or freighter ride here.
There are more people in China with the last name of ‘Wang’ then there are people living in the United States... If we only took in the 20% of people in the world who verged on being Saints we wouldn’t have room for them...
That said, what you’ve come up with is many times fairer than anything our ‘representatives’ have come up with...
“..they want to set up their own feudal system....”
Who?
This is MY plan for immigration reform.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3148967/posts?page=64#64
Basically, if we;re not going to deport them, then they have a LONGER wait in line, behind the people that came here legally.
Then we’ll see how badly they want to stay here when the Freebies tap is turned off.
What do you think of my idea — bringing in 60 million Chinese if they agree to vote Republican? Sixty million poor Chinese have dreams too - and probably sob stories worthy of the New York Times.
If our side can add sixty million citizens we’ll be able to offer ‘free advice’ for Democrats: we can tell them if they want to win elections they need to court the right-to-life vote.
And the NRA vote...
And the Christian and Jewish vote...\\
Wouldn’t that be fun?
It IS what they’re doing to us, Sick ... you know that right?
I respectfully dissent.
Either deport them or legalize them. No government has the right to tax people without representation.
Once you allow for that precedent, you open the gates for it happening to any group out of favor with the current regime.
Dissent is great, friend. I hear no other options from DC. So I gave them my own.
“...Either deport them or legalize them. No government has the right to tax people without representation...”
No one has the balls to deport them. And legalizing them means an INSTANT democrat century. That’s not fair to the rest of the country.
And yes, we ABSOLUTELY DO have the right to protect ourselves from an instant Socialist wave demanding freebies and access to our Social Security system.
If they’ve been working here under the table, they’ve been paying ZERO taxes, yet have access to Emergency Rooms, and other features of our system; if they’ve used other people’s SS numbers, they’re stealing. They broke the law by coming here the way they did.
Way I see, they ought to thank God we’re giving them a 15 year grace period to see how badly they WANT to stay here. That’ll weed out the users and shirkers, and you’ll be left with folks that REALLY want to stay and “give something BACK” as the Left is so fond of saying.
“...you open the gates for it happening to any group out of favor with the current regime....”
It’s already happened. You and I are “out of favor” with the current regime. This is how they want to ENSURE that they have a permanent majority.
Before the Democrats effed up the immigration system in 1965, we had a quota system and way of ensuring that people assimilated into society and became “Americans”. That has been destroyed by the Dems.
My method is pure self-defense for the rest of the country - and for the honest people who came here LEGALLY, got it line, and waited for their chance at being Americans - NOT at being an aggrieved minority trying to get back at the Norte Americano Gringos.
Sorry, but that’s the way I see it.
It’s no lose, because if Sarah (or Ted Cruz) win, we have a shot to take back the party. If they nominate a Bush or some other RINO, then that will force us out of their party, and be the final nail in the GOP’s coffin.
I no longer consider myself a Republican, but I would rally for this.
Actually, YOUR OWN COMMENTS are the most powerful rebuttal to you sir, we're all breathlessly awaiting your links to all those candidates with full plans to deal with illegal immigration. We've noticed you haven't posted any, yet you're not on any other threads of even one candidate demanding their immigration bona fides as you do hers.
I wonder why?
Where is YOUR LINK sir?
You don't have one do you?
So you just stink up these threads with your imaginary "Palin is for amnesty" bullshit.
Congrats on being one of the finest hypocrites known on FR.
It should be the law of the land.
I understand why you feel that way, but I believe some things are more important than politics or elections.
I don’t hold the position that any government has the right to extract taxes from individuals without their consent.
Hey Jeb you dumbfuck, THEY CREATED THEIR OWN SITUATION by breaking our laws and having their kids here KNOWING FULL WELL ONE DAY THEY MAY GET CAUGHT AND DEPORTED!
Why is it WE THE PEOPLE are responsible for these LAW-BREAKERS who created their own situation?!
“.. don’t hold the position that any government has the right to extract taxes from individuals without their consent....”
Consider it back taxes for the years these people have been milking YOU and I.
Nobody gave YOU anything. You worked your ass off for the things you have, and played within the system - even when the system has been skewed against you.
But hey... we all have our opinion on it. For lack of anyone else putting a plan forward, there’s mine.
We’ll agree to disagree, brother. :^)
“...some things are more important than politics or elections....”
And I understand that as well.
But if you let this go on, we will have NO country left for our children and grandchildren.
It is a simple matter of self-preservation of OUR way of life. There won’t be a place to run to if we allow ourselves to get removed from the equation.
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